Sealing Cancelations

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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby johnshaw » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:13 pm

Yes, there is nothing like 'only one time' in any documentation and handbooks out there.
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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby russellhltn » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:14 pm

The only "one" I see is that a living woman can only be sealed to one man (at a time).
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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby lajackson » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:20 pm

danbartonsherwood wrote:Is she able to receive permission again . . .

Yes. Technically, her previous sealing was canceled. In the future, she may be sealed to someone else if all other requirements are met.

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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby donaramirez1 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:38 am

What if the man and women were sealed, but are now divorced more than 14 years ago. Neither are married at this time. He talks to his ex-wife because he has found someone he would like to be sealed in the temple now; both are temple worthy.

At first, the former spouse was upset and said she would not share being sealed to the same man who wants to be sealed with another. Initially, she sounded willing to cancel their sealing, now out of anger states she is making ugly accusations from the past, says she will talk to her Bishop (even though she doesn't know who he is) and is not willing to write a letter to request a cancellation.

For the man, his bishop asked him to fill out the LDS form which will to go to the First Presidency, what is this form for? A cancellation of sealing or just permission to be sealed to another despite the first sealing? Can a cancellation of sealing be given to a man if the living ex-wife is no longer active and refuses to release him? Does a woman need to give her permission to her former sealed ex-spouse to be sealed to another woman who is temple worthy? Can a man be sealed again to another, despite being sealed to another even though she is still living but not active in the church?

Has anyone had a cancellation of sealing without her permission? Or just permission to be sealed to number 2???

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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby russellhltn » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:54 pm

dshinsato wrote:For the man, his bishop asked him to fill out the LDS form which will to go to the First Presidency, what is this form for? A cancellation of sealing or just permission to be sealed to another despite the first sealing?

It's for permission from the First Presidency for the second sealing.

In looking at the directive in the Handbook (1: 3.6.1), it appears that permission from the first wife is not necessary, but that the First Presidency does want her input.
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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby donaramirez1 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:12 pm

What type of input do they want from an ex-wife? What if she is very negative and makes allegations which are not true? What if she does not respond does that stop t
he process of the second sealing? Or can this cause a delay in the process?

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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby russellhltn » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:10 pm

We don't know. We're not told.
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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby lajackson » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:53 pm

donaramirez1 wrote:What type of input do they want from an ex-wife? What if she is very negative and makes allegations which are not true? What if she does not respond does that stop the process of the second sealing? Or can this cause a delay in the process?

Some things may have changed, but based on my experience in a calling where I dealt with these issues, this is what I saw.

The letter from the former wife is intended for her to be able to share her feelings about the request with the Prophet. I recall that there are some specifics in the Application instructions, but I do not remember that they were much more than that.

The tone of her letter reflects mostly on her. Remember that the brother also has written a letter that includes the circumstances of the divorce. In my experience, it was rare for the sister to bring up anything that the brother had not already mentioned.

If she does not respond, the bishop explains in his letter that she was given the opportunity to write and did not. Her failure to write does not stop the process and almost never causes any delay other than to make certain she had the chance to provide her feelings about the request.

On very rare occasions, the stake president will be contacted and asked for additional information. But if the instructions on the Application to the First Presidency form have been followed, this almost never happens.

The First Presidency is well aware of the issues regarding the breakup of a marriage and the attempts to put lives and families back in order. The Application to the First Presidency, along with the letters required as a part of it, provide them the information they need to take these decisions to the Lord and obtain answers that will bless the lives of individual members and allow them to put their lives on track once again.

I only speak for myself based on my personal experiences in helping members go through this process. Following the instructions of the First Presidency on the Application and the process outlined in Handbook 1 are the most important keys to this difficult process.

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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby claudiagreenmun » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:29 pm

What if a women wants to have a sealing cancellation due to remarriage but is marrying a non member?

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Re: Sealing Cancelations

Postby russellhltn » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:52 pm

claudiagreenmun wrote:What if a women wants to have a sealing cancellation due to remarriage but is marrying a non member?

As far as I can tell, it's not required to have the sealing canceled.

Keep in mind that canceling the sealing cancels the blessings that goes with it. That's why women usually don't get a sealing cancellation until they're ready to be sealed to someone else.
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