Mirroring MLS and LCR

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Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby davidpeters » Sun May 12, 2019 4:38 pm

During the transition of expenses from MLS to LCR it appears that expenses entered in on system are mirrored in the other system. Does anyone know how long these systems will be mirrored before we are asked to completely transition to doing all our expenses in LCR?

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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby russellhltn » Sun May 12, 2019 5:06 pm

Hard telling. We rarely get any time lines. And when a time line does leak, it's frequently inaccurate.

But first, LCR is going to need some added functions. I understand that budget is not yet in there.
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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby eblood66 » Sun May 12, 2019 5:26 pm

russellhltn wrote:But first, LCR is going to need some added functions. I understand that budget is not yet in there.

Yes, until the budget functionality is moved to LCR, the expenses will have to be available in MLS. But it is possible that they will eliminate the ability to enter expenses in MLS before that point. But, as you said, we have no idea if that will happen first or when it might happen.

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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby t0008sa » Wed May 15, 2019 5:07 am

Can we please get Budget moved????

We can now do every common task online except that.

In fact, I'm at work right now and we did some account transfers online yesterday, but now I'm going to have to go to the building and get on MLS to get the Budget report and ensure everything looks correct.

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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby eblood66 » Wed May 15, 2019 5:27 am

Nobody in the forums has any control over the development priorities. We're mostly just users like yourself. And the few developers who occasionally stop by don't set the priorities.

You can submit feedback using the Feedback link in LCR but I'm sure it's already on their roadmap. Really there are only two things left in MLS that aren't available in LCR: budget and category management and donation processing. My personal guess is that budgets will be next but really we'll just have to wait and see.

Note, however, that LCR does already have an income/expense report. Since budgets generally don't change much, if you keep a printout of the budget allocations you can just get the income/expense report for a category from LCR and then manually subtract the total from the budget amount to get the remaining budget. Not as convenient as have the budget report directly available but not difficult.

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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby drepouille » Wed May 15, 2019 5:30 am

t0008sa wrote:Can we please get Budget moved????


Who are you asking? Users on this forum have no control over that.

t0008sa wrote:We can now do every common task online except that.


Well, we can't do several financial processes online: Budget, Other:AMFA, Donations, etc.
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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby t0008sa » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:51 am

drepouille wrote:
t0008sa wrote:Can we please get Budget moved????


Who are you asking? Users on this forum have no control over that.

t0008sa wrote:We can now do every common task online except that.


Well, we can't do several financial processes online: Budget, Other:AMFA, Donations, etc.


We can now get Budget and AMFA reporting.

I don't expect that Donations will ever be able to be done outside the clerks' office.

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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby davesudweeks » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:07 am

t0008sa wrote:I don't expect that Donations will ever be able to be done outside the clerks' office.


I'm not a programmer, but wonder if the clerk computer's MAC address could be used to ensure that donations were being made from the clerk's office and not from a different device somewhere else. Of course, that would introduce some complexity when computers are changed out. It might be easier to just keep MLS as a "donation-entry only" program.

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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby eblood66 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:29 am

davesudweeks wrote:
t0008sa wrote:I don't expect that Donations will ever be able to be done outside the clerks' office.


I'm not a programmer, but wonder if the clerk computer's MAC address could be used to ensure that donations were being made from the clerk's office and not from a different device somewhere else. Of course, that would introduce some complexity when computers are changed out. It might be easier to just keep MLS as a "donation-entry only" program.

Printing checks is also only allowed on clerk computers but that has been moved to LCR. So I think the donations will be moved as well but policy will still required doing it on a clerk computer. If they want to, there are ways of enforcing the connections only come from certain computers by using protected client certificates. But I don't know if they will go to those lengths.

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Re: Mirroring MLS and LCR

Postby russellhltn » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:32 pm

eblood66 wrote:If they want to, there are ways of enforcing the connections only come from certain computers by using protected client certificates. But I don't know if they will go to those lengths.

I'd think the simplest way is to make sure it's comes over the church's network.
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