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by RossEvans
Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:50 am
Forum: Getting Started for New Clerks
Topic: Fast Offering expenditure report options
Replies: 3
Views: 1275

Re: Fast Offering expenditure report options

If memory serves, there is a Recipient report that will show the transactions paid for the benefit of each fast offering recipient (that is, the member getting the aid). I believe that report can be filtered by member and date range, but not by category (housing, food, utilities, other). The ability...
by RossEvans
Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:52 am
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

So in any case, with respect to membership data, you both are saying that one possible interpretation is that only Church-created software can access membership data. (russellhltn goes further, and argues that is the only possible interpretation.) I continue to reject that reading, because it leads...
by RossEvans
Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:08 am
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

But I am not at all persuaded that the way to resolve the inartful language is to declare that only Church-created software is allowed for use on Church computers. No one has ever said that. I suggested that one possible interpretation of 3.11 with 4.9.3 is that only Church-created software was all...
by RossEvans
Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:01 pm
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

I think I'm winning you over to my side. ;) Only to the extent that I agree the drafting is confusing. (Actually, I think the whole rollout of this new Meetinghouse Technology Policy has been handled rather clumsily all along. And this example is hardly the first confusing policy language ever prom...
by RossEvans
Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:28 pm
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

Any computer software program that was not created by the Church or is not approved for use on Church computers. The problem is the word "or". It means everything not created by the church is third-party. Huh? So according to your reading, no software not created by the Church can contain...
by RossEvans
Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:25 pm
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

The express language of section 3.11 that you quoted above uses the word "or". So it is quite clear from the policy document itself that the term "Third-Party software" includes even properly licensed software installed on the meetinghouse computer. The fact that a separate RKAT...
by RossEvans
Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:56 am
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

If I understand your view of third party software, it is any that hasn't been properly licensed. That is not my "view." That is the plain language of the formal definition of the term "third party software" within the Meetinghouse Technology Policy, read in conjunction with the ...
by RossEvans
Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:16 pm
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

The general scope of that policy has not changed. It still applies only to meetinghouse computers "unless otherwise stated," so there is still nothing that regulates software on leaders' personal computers. This does not regulate what software can be on personal computers, but does regula...
by RossEvans
Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:17 am
Forum: MLS Support, Help, and Feedback
Topic: Address verification: why not get some help?
Replies: 5
Views: 962

Re: Address verification: why not get some help?

Anything I can point them to that documents that this capability exists or tells them how to use it? All I can say is to log onto LDS.org and click Leader and Clerk Resources from the drop-down menu and explore the menu items available. The menu items available are dependent on your specific callin...
by RossEvans
Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:46 am
Forum: General Clerk Discussions
Topic: Ward Boundary Maps Detail
Replies: 24
Views: 6286

Re: Ward Boundary Maps Detail

4.9.3 The use of MLS data and membership information in third party software is prohibited, whether obtained from within or outside of a meetinghouse. That is going to be one tough policy to enforce. I've seen so many spreadsheets used by wards for membership issues that it's hard to believe units ...

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