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by RossEvans
Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:13 am
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

With regards backing things up, what about the pdf finance reports we get monthly. Should they be copied to a USB drive as well? Our area office has said to only print the first 2 pages, summary and signatures, and leave the rest in electronic form. Am I right in thinking that if MLS has a clean in...
by RossEvans
Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:49 am
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

the second USB carried offsite by a clerk, sneakernet style. We do a monthly backup to a flashdrive that goes offsite, usually right after the HT/VT is updated and especially right after the quarterly report is sent, when HT/VT is most current. As scgallafent said, everything else is current and av...
by RossEvans
Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:27 pm
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

It really is not much extra trouble to make that extra copy to another USB on the clerk's keychain. It takes about 30 seconds. I did it for years and never regretted it, even though I never needed to restore from it. I have no issues with that. I thought we were discussing something more elaborate....
by RossEvans
Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:07 pm
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

So thanks, but I still recommend robust local backups as a best practice. Local is fine. MLS forces that. It's the off-site backup in the event of fire or theft. Maybe your area is different, but it's a very rare event in my area. I mean local offsite, not local onsite. And no, MLS doesn't force an...
by RossEvans
Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:14 pm
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

I don't think that our HP, EQ and RS presidencies would agree that recording their HT/VT is not "mission critical." So thanks, but I still recommend robust local backups as a best practice.
by RossEvans
Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:08 pm
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

I was only talking about MLS. There still are some holes in the content being uploaded to headquarters (HT/VT, etc.). And the frequency of the MLS backup-set file monthly is insufficient to be the primary backup, only a last-ditch fallback. We really need daily backups whenever MLS data changes, wh...
by RossEvans
Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:48 am
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

Technically, using a proper backup server in a remote data center, professionally administered, is a good solution. It seems that the church is moving toward that solution with its own central servers, but that solution is so local backups are still a good idea. When you say "not yet complete ...
by RossEvans
Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:55 am
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

The question is: is a VPN considered a "cloud-based service"? It's most certainly is being used for backup. A more relevant policy question is whether the suggested remote access to the stake computer violates the prohibition against remote access under section 4.9 of the new Meetinghouse...
by RossEvans
Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:45 pm
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Procedure for non-mls computers in clerks office
Replies: 15
Views: 2569

Re: Procedure for non-mls computers in clerks office

Given the lack of an official letter, I could not fault a stake president who took the position that the 2009 policy document (which did arrive with an official letter) is still in force. I would agree, provided that he remains unaware of the new policy -- which unfortunately is more than possible ...
by RossEvans
Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:53 pm
Forum: Clerk Computers
Topic: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups
Replies: 41
Views: 5446

Re: Offsite Storage of MLS Backups

The latest policy that came out explicitly declared that storing MLS backups off-site is prohibited. Can you point that out? Because I've missed that. What I have seen is "4.8.4 The use of cloud-based services for storing and/or backing up MLS or any membership related data is prohibited."...

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