Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

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Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby tech3627 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:04 pm

With the recent changes I have been released from being a councilor in YM and called to be the quorum advisor. As the councilor in YM I had access to see all the YM in the ward and the ability to send messages to YM and parents through LCR. My access to this information and these abilities is now gone. In the past the quorum presidency has not been able to see a list of all quorum members in LDS tools, only bishopric and YM presidencies. Who has access to this information? I think it is important that all members of the quorum are discussed in presidency meeting. This is difficult if people do not have access to this information. Is access being updated, or is there other council for us?

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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby russellhltn » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:45 pm

It can take up to 24 hours for rights to appear after being recorded in a calling.
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Postby lajackson » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:20 pm

tech3627 wrote:As the councilor in YM I had access to see all the YM in the ward and the ability to send messages to YM and parents through LCR. My access to this information and these abilities is now gone.

Whether or not you will again receive access, I believe this will provide an opportunity for the counselor in the bishopric who is over your quorum, and who does have access, to rise to the responsibility he has been given as a member of the bishopric.

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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby bullockb3 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:54 am

I was called as a specialist with specific instructions to help with secretarial duties. Is there any way for me to get access to quorum member lists. Without it it makes my calling a lot more difficult. Especially while helping train the Quorum Presidency Secretary.

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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby jdlessley » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:31 pm

bullockb3 wrote:I was called as a specialist with specific instructions to help with secretarial duties. Is there any way for me to get access to quorum member lists. Without it it makes my calling a lot more difficult. Especially while helping train the Quorum Presidency Secretary.

We won't know what access YM Specialists will have until the callings appear in 2 January. Based on the information provided on the Leader and Clerk Resources landing page there will be access to "needed functionality". What that is we do not know.

Leader and Clerk Resources wrote:To support the Aaronic Priesthood organization changes announced in General Conference, the ward Young Men organization and those called to the Young Men Presidency are being removed. Those currently called as Advisers will remain in that calling. Those currently called as Assistant Quorum Advisers will become Quorum Specialists. After January 2, 2020, please review the adult leader callings within the Aaronic Priesthood organization and make any necessary updates. If you have already recorded Specialists as custom callings, you will need to delete those entries and record them using the standard Specialist calling. Individuals in custom callings will not have access to needed functionality in Leader and Clerk Resources and Member Tools.
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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby russellhltn » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:26 pm

bullockb3 wrote:I was called as a specialist with specific instructions to help with secretarial duties. Is there any way for me to get access to quorum member lists.

The only way to get access is to hold a standard calling that grants access (and wait 24 hours after the calling is recorded). There is no other way.

The access granted to a calling is based on the responsibilities outlined in the Handbook (or in this case, the new directives). While local leaders may extend special assignments, they can't change the access rights.

bullockb3 wrote:Without it it makes my calling a lot more difficult. Especially while helping train the Quorum Presidency Secretary.

The training may have to be "over the shoulder" training while the Secretary uses his login to gain access. We've seen in the past that simply a responsibility to train doesn't grant trainers the same access as the trainees. Only those with responsibilities for individual members are given access. I suspect this is due to legal/privacy issues.
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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby Wrog » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:34 pm

I tried to add the quorum specialists to their official callings now that they're in LCR but ran into a problem - system only allows members of the quorum to be entered as specialist, no adults. According to HB2, adults are to be called as specialists, not youth. Anyone else having this issue?

Another reason for calling specialists is to ensure that at least two adult men are present at quorum meetings and activities when bishopric members attend Young Women and Primary.

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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby jdlessley » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:58 pm

Wrog wrote:I tried to add the quorum specialists to their official callings now that they're in LCR but ran into a problem - system only allows members of the quorum to be entered as specialist, no adults. According to HB2, adults are to be called as specialists, not youth.

Did you send feedback for the problem? That can be done at the bottom of the LCR page. I suspect the ICS team had such a short time to make the changes and this may require further development.
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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby scgallafent » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:19 pm

It looks like there are some problems with adult leader assignments right now. I just tested and chatted with the lead developer about what I was seeing. He's chasing a different fire, so it's probably going to be morning before too much gets done on it.

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Re: Will LCR be available to YM quorum advisors and specialist?

Postby Wrog » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:37 am

I found that there's a generic Aaronic Priesthood Quorums Specialist calling that can be used but the quorum-specific callings are not usable due to this glitch. I submitted feedback about the issue but will use the generic calling until it's fixed.


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