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I recently signed up to receive announcements from the church's PR department - they come via email from publicaffairs-slc@ldschurch.org.

There is always a vague subject line, but the emails never actually contains anything other than links to forward this vague email to other people. Here's one I got yesterday:

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From: publicaffairs-slc@ldschurch.org
Subject: The Publicity Dilemma: Church Statement on Big Love
Date: March 9, 2009 1:25:26 PM PDT
To: eric@ericmckirdy.com
Reply-To: publicaffairs-slc@ldschurch.org

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If the point really is to convey an entire story in one subject line, it's not working for me. Can this be changed?

Thanks!

emckirdy wrote:I recently signed up to receive announcements from the church's PR department - they come via email from publicaffairs-slc@ldschurch.org.

There is always a vague subject line, but the emails never actually contains anything other than links to forward this vague email to other people.
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If the point really is to convey an entire story in one subject line, it's not working for me. Can this be changed?

You raise a good point -- it seems odd that there isn't even a link to the article itself. But I doubt that anyone from Public Affairs will see your post. I'd recommend that you contact them directly at publicaffairs-slc@ldschurch.org

I have replied three times now, and never had a response. I suspect replies to their mass e-mails are probably routed straight to the spam folder.

emckirdy wrote:I have replied three times now, and never had a response. I suspect replies to their mass e-mails are probably routed straight to the spam folder.

That may be. I wasn't suggesting that you reply to the message, but rather that you send e-mail directly. I know it goes to the same e-mail address, but a direct message may get past the spam filter. After all, the registration message says:

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Thanks again for registering. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to contact us.

Sincerely,

Public Affairs
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
email: publicaffairs-slc@ldschurch.org

So it seems that they do welcome feedback, if you can get past the spam filter. I would suggest at least changing the subject of your e-mail message.

Sorry, costantcontact.com is a Church's site?
I went there but it doesn't seem so!:confused:

marianomarini_vi wrote:Sorry, costantcontact.com is a Church's site?
I went there but it doesn't seem so!:confused:

ConstantContact is a third party that the Church's Public Affairs department uses to manage e-mail subscriptions.

You seem to be implying that there is some problem with using a non-Church server to manage e-mail subscriptions. I personally don't see any problem with the Church using effective technology from third parties when it meets the needs and is cost effective. Do you see something wrong with this approach?

Alan_Brown wrote:ConstantContact is a third party that the Church's Public Affairs department uses to manage e-mail subscriptions.

You seem to be implying that there is some problem with using a non-Church server to manage e-mail subscriptions. I personally don't see any problem with the Church using effective technology from third parties when it meets the needs and is cost effective. Do you see something wrong with this approach?

(... jumping into the middle of the thread ...)

Of course, the Church can use any third-party service providers it wants. There is one problem, though. When I receive email claiming to be from party A (the Church in this case) that tells me to go to party B's website, especially when I have never heard of party B, I can't tell whether it's really from party A or a phisher. When I receive email from my bank (or another bank) telling me to go to a website based in another hemisphere to confirm my account information, I don't follow the links.

A couple of years ago, I received email claiming to be from FamilySearch inviting me to take a survey at some third-party website I had never heard of. I was happy to take the survey AFTER I confirmed with FamilySearch that it was legitimate. I would think it would be better if there were possible for the URLs in the email message to be to a recognizable domain.

emckirdy wrote:I recently signed up to receive announcements from the church's PR department - they come via email from publicaffairs-slc@ldschurch.org.

There is always a vague subject line, but the emails never actually contains anything other than links to forward this vague email to other people. Here's one I got yesterday:

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If the point really is to convey an entire story in one subject line, it's not working for me. Can this be changed?

This is very strange. I received the same e-mail. The body of the e-mail I received looked like:

Newsroom.lds.org Updates in Your Inbox!

The Publicity Dilemma: Church Statement on Big Love

SALT LAKE CITY | 9 March 2009 | Like other large faith groups, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sometimes finds itself on the receiving end of attention from Hollywood or Broadway, television series or books, and the news media. Sometimes depictions of the Church and its people are quite accurate. Sometimes the images are false or play to stereotypes. Occasionally, they are in appallingly bad taste. "Full-story-URL"


"Forward email URL"

For some reason, your e-mail system appears to be stripping out the text from the e-mail. I'm not sure that I know why this is happening. The reason I am replying is to indicate that your experience is not universal, so the problem is not with e-mail composition or content. The problem appears to be with e-mail filtering or delivery.

Thanks,
Dennis

dmaynes wrote:This is very strange. I received the same e-mail. The body of the e-mail I received looked like:

For some reason, your e-mail system appears to be stripping out the text from the e-mail. I'm not sure that I know why this is happening. The reason I am replying is to indicate that your experience is not universal, so the problem is not with e-mail composition or content. The problem appears to be with e-mail filtering or delivery.

Did you request HTML or text-only delivery? The message emckirdy received looked like text-only, but the one you quoted looked more like HTML.

Alan_Brown wrote:Do you see something wrong with this approach?

Not, not at all.
I'm thinking that this must be known by the user.
That's all.