Intermediate Hymn in the new meeting format?

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Re: Intermediate Hymn in the new meeting format?

Postby wrigjef » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:13 pm

Our bishopric just made the call that if there was two speakers we would have an intermediate hymn if three then no. We try to always have a youth speaker do 3-5min then 2 adults. But the youth speaker occasionally backs out or does not show up. Chorister always has a hymn in mind just in case.

Our Stake President has made it clear, speaker or member giving a testimony gets cut off at 5 min sure the hour. Not only does he want us to keep meetings to two hours so families can get home, but we also have another ward crammed in the foyer waiting to get their seats as soon as our ward finishes (even though there is a half hour)

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Re: Intermediate Hymn in the new meeting format?

Postby judyth41 » Wed May 08, 2019 10:36 pm

I think “intermediate hymn” is an outdated and essentially meaningless term. Used in a 2-hour conference session it might make sense, but not in one-hour Sacrament service. My ward is trying to maintain the old ways (e.g. closing hymn in Relief Society) and “intermediate hymn” between speakers in Sacrament Meeting. Singing 3 congregational hymns should be enough, and I don’t think the headaches of trying to have a ward choir in most wards is worth the effort, either. We’ve been given a new “model” for our worship service. Let the old one go. Period. And if the bishop insists on another hymn in there somewhere, call it what it is—a congregational hymn.

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Re: Intermediate Hymn in the new meeting format?

Postby lajackson » Thu May 09, 2019 8:17 am

judyth41 wrote:We’ve been given a new “model” for our worship service.

We have always called it a congregational hymn. And our choir sings at least monthly, sometimes more often. Our talks have improved because our speakers are more focused and most are only given 10 minutes, instead of the 12 they had before.

As for Sunday lessons, music is very effective when used as a part of the lesson, although you are correct that there is no longer an opening or closing hymn in second hour meetings.

But if there are no choirs in sacrament meetings, there will be no excellent choirs at stake conference.

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Re: Intermediate Hymn in the new meeting format?

Postby bez7 » Tue May 21, 2019 9:08 am

jsorens6 wrote:We have 3 speakers each week and an intermediate hymn. The speakers are 1 youth and 2 adults. We have enjoyed having shorter, more focused messages presented in Sacrament Meeting.


I agree with this thought. My Ward has emphatically ended the intermediate hymns so that speakers have time, but having 2 15+ min talks does nothing to promote a reverent attitude in our meetings. Many of us feel an increased kinship when we're singing (worshipping) together in song. My brother's Ward, on the other hand, still sings and limits most talks to ~5 min with 4-5 speakers per Sunday. They're loving the meetings now. To each his own, I suppose

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Re: Intermediate Hymn in the new meeting format?

Postby aebrown » Tue May 21, 2019 8:57 pm

judyth41 wrote:I think “intermediate hymn” is an outdated and essentially meaningless term. Used in a 2-hour conference session it might make sense, but not in one-hour Sacrament service. My ward is trying to maintain the old ways (e.g. closing hymn in Relief Society) and “intermediate hymn” between speakers in Sacrament Meeting. Singing 3 congregational hymns should be enough, and I don’t think the headaches of trying to have a ward choir in most wards is worth the effort, either. We’ve been given a new “model” for our worship service. Let the old one go. Period. And if the bishop insists on another hymn in there somewhere, call it what it is—a congregational hymn.

Handbook 2 has been revised to teach us what the new model truly is.
So it's clear that music continues to be an important part of our sacrament services, and that extends beyond the three required congregational hymns. Nothing in that regard has changed with the new model, for which I am very grateful. As the First Presidency has said:
“Inspirational music is an essential part of our church meetings. The hymns invite the Spirit of the Lord, create a feeling of reverence, unify us as members, and provide a way for us to offer praises to the Lord.

“Some of the greatest sermons are preached by the singing of hymns. Hymns move us to repentance and good works, build testimony and faith, comfort the weary, console the mourning, and inspire us to endure to the end” (Hymns, ix).


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