Tech Gadgets in the Chapel

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Bluetooth all-mute transmitter

Postby SingerGuy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:21 pm

I would like to see a Bluetooth transmitter in every chapel that reaches out to every Bluetooth-enabled phone and automatically puts the phone on Silent mode. That way people couldn't forget to silence their phones in church.

I'd also like to see this transmitter in every movie theater!

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Postby russellhltn » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:28 pm

Are phones controllable that way by Bluetooth? Would it be legal for "us" to access the phone to change it's settings? How would you keep the effect confined to the chapel and out of the hallways?

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Postby nbflint » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:11 pm

The phone would also have to have bluetooth turned on. I for one do not have bluetooth turned on when not in use as it reduces battery life. Dispite the legal questions, you'd probally get a better result for less cost by just printing a reminder in the bulletin to turn cell phones off or to silent.


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Postby jdlessley » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:20 pm

The Bluetooth transmitter does not communicate with any devices but rather jams the signals. It is not legal in some municipalities and some states. The device is used in such places as live performance theaters and similar places to prevent communications. It is not only Bluetooth that can be jammed but cell phones and other over-the-air communications devices. You can see why it is so controversial.

The military has used these devices for some time now in areas needing extra security.

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Postby rmrichesjr » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:19 pm

jdlessley wrote:The Bluetooth transmitter does not communicate with any devices but rather jams the signals. It is not legal in some municipalities and some states. The device is used in such places as live performance theaters and similar places to prevent communications. It is not only Bluetooth that can be jammed but cell phones and other over-the-air communications devices. You can see why it is so controversial.

The military has used these devices for some time now in areas needing extra security.


Last time I studied FCC regulations, in the USA radio transmission devices that jam other communications are also pretty serious violations of said FCC regulations.

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Postby Mikerowaved » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:33 pm

SingerGuy59 wrote:I would like to see a Bluetooth transmitter in every chapel that reaches out to every Bluetooth-enabled phone and automatically puts the phone on Silent mode. That way people couldn't forget to silence their phones in church.

I'd also like to see this transmitter in every movie theater!

Folks, I believe this was meant to be more sarcasm than a real suggestion.
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Postby SingerGuy » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:43 pm

Mikerowaved wrote:Folks, I believe this was meant to be more sarcasm than a real suggestion.

Ding, ding, ding! ;)

Of course, it would be nice if there was an industry standard that could come about that would allow something like this to happen (on a per-phone opt-in basis of course).

Our Stake President insists that whoever is conducting gives a reminder at the beginning of meetings to silence the phones. The last meeting I was in one of the jokers on the high council sent a text message to the 1st Counselor during a Saturday leadership meeting, right as the Stake President was making that announcement. Yep, the counselor's phone hadn't been silenced.

That was the last time I ever heard a phone ring in a meeting. :D

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Postby russellhltn » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:20 pm

rmrichesjr wrote:Last time I studied FCC regulations, in the USA radio transmission devices that jam other communications are also pretty serious violations of said FCC regulations.


Quoted for emphasis. It may be legal in other countries, but it's not legal in the US. However, Faraday cages are legal. Perhaps we'll see some new designs for a new generation of buildings? ;)


Mikerowaved wrote:Folks, I believe this was meant to be more sarcasm than a real suggestion.


I have a hard time applying sarcasm to that post. I think wistful desire is closer.


SingerGuy59 wrote:Of course, it would be nice if there was an industry standard that could come about that would allow something like this to happen (on a per-phone opt-in basis of course).


Yeah, it would be nice, but the question of confining the results to the desired room remains.
And it may move this conversation outside the realm of church tech.

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Postby SheffieldTR » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:19 am

Believe it or not, as I have sat on the stand I have received text messages about an event or something that needed to be announced or corrected from a member of the congregation. I for one am glad that technology can be used to further the work, and sometimes it needs to be during the meetings.

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Device Manners Policy

Postby allenkroff » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:39 pm

Although initially proffered "tongue in cheek", you might be interested to know that your wish may just be closer than you think. Microsoft calls it Device Manners Policy. You can read about it here:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/05/microsofts-device-manners-policy-patent-enforces-no-talking-zo/

My particular phone (MotoQ9c) allows me to schedule times for it to be automatically set to vibrate so no interruptions during Church meetings (as long as they are on the calender).

Be careful what you wish for...


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