Gary_Miller wrote:What a mistake MLS is such and easy program to use and the HT/VT portion of the program ties directly to the member data base where reports can be run by the bishop that shows him the stautus of HT/VT in his ward.
Mistake? I don't think so. Not to boast, but my ward has been able to maintain above a 90 % average in home teaching this past year. I feel it's because we spend as little time in MLS as possible and much more time ministering and actually making the visits and talking to our home teachers.
And did you actually say again MLS is easy? While it's not overly complicated putting in the assignments is very tedious. In our ward there is a lot of turnover, so putting in the assignments takes time. Google Docs saves us that time.
Gary_Miller wrote:And where one can use a third party program or even implement one of their own it would require one to have to input membership data and takes away the ability of the bishop and clerks to run reports that would give bishops the instant information they may need.
How is this going to easy the administrative burden you spoke about earlier in order to give you time to minister to the members of the ward that your quorum is responsible for?
Which now will have to be calculated using another program and the data hand inserted into the report instead the program compiling the numbers and inserting them automatically.
The Bishop has access to the google doc we use so he can view the report on home teaching anytime he likes. AND he can view them from anywhere as well. He doesn't have to be at the church. That has been a big bonus.
The only report that I have to send, to our ward, is a quarterly report, which includes basic information, like home teaching percentages and families missed and attendance. It takes about 2 minutes for the clerk to put it into his report. A few hours saved in the organization makes that 2 minutes worth it. Again the beauty of this report, is that I can do it ANYWHERE. Not only in the church.
Actually as a clerk I'm able to see the needs of everyone who is using MLS. I can see and understand that somethings could be better and that the capabilities to do things using an app or online program like clerk resources would greatly help in enabling one to fulfill their call in a more convenient manner. I just feel somethings are need sooner than others and that those who use MLS the most should have their needs taken care of sooner than others.
I'm sorry but I don't think you do know the needs. It seems you are claiming you know the responsibilities that I have, but that I don't understand your responsibilities. Just because you are the clerk does not mean you fully understand what it's like to be an Elders Quorum President or Relief Society President or High Priest Group Leader and their needs within MLS. I do not believe you go to their weekly meetings.
Also you mention that because you use MLS the most, improvements should focus on helping YOU out. I might mention my motivation in making home teaching organization easier is so an Elder's Quorum President/Relief Society President or High Priest Group Leader can spend more time ministering. The ward clerk does not have the responsibility to minister.
I don't want to be contentious. I think my ward has figured out a great way to do home teaching. I would just like to have my idea heard out. I am grateful for legitimate concerns or suggestions.
I don't appreciate, however, being told I am making a mistake in my calling(but not using my secretary properly) or being told that my stake president is making a mistake because he gave us permission to stop using MLS. Without much knowledge of the situation nor the results we have achieved you made several judgements(of people who have been given keys I might add). If you ward is able to achieve good results because of the way you use MLS, I would love to hear about it. If not, I suggest you open up to newer ideas that may help out your ward.