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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:21 pm
by josh-p40
Another one mkmurray gave me over IM:

"fear the Lord"

Deuteronomy 10:20 Score: 7.48286700798
Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:23 pm
by josh-p40
By the way, on that last one (Deut 6:13), that was the top score out of 74.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:26 pm
by josh-p40
Just for fun, here is Alma 32:21 with "faith" again, but this time using "bigrams" or in other words, considering the words that come before or after each keyword. Notice the verses are a little different.

Ether 12:6.txt 10.5882366948
And now, I, Moroni, would speak somewhat concerning these things; I would show unto the world that faith is things which are hoped for and not seen; wherefore, dispute not because ye see not, for ye receive no witness until after the trial of your faith.

Moroni 10:23.txt 10.4507441362
And Christ truly said unto our fathers: If ye have faith ye can do all things which are expedient unto me.

Alma 32:26.txt 9.85455411358
Now, as I said concerning faith--that it was not a perfect knowledge--even so it is with my words. Ye cannot know of their surety at first, unto perfection, any more than faith is a perfect knowledge.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:13 am
by josh-p40
Prototype available here:

Not very fancy though. You have to know the verse ahead of time, no fancy ajax throwing it up for you as you type yet. :)

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:47 am
by ShellineSE
Help me understand how this is qualitatively superior to the search on, which returns the following three scriptures when given the term "faith" (after filtering out the non-scripture results):

Alma 44:4
Now ye see that this is the true faith of God; yea, ye see that God will support, and keep, and preserve us, so long as we are faithful unto him, and unto our faith, and our religion; and never will the Lord suffer that we shall be destroyed except we should fall into transgression and deny our faith.

Romans 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

James 2:18
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:21 am
by josh-p40
First, the usage is different.

When you type "faith" into's search, you want general results on faith. Perhaps the most "relevant" or common results from a "PageRank" point of view.

Here, the usage is instead you reading the scriptures or a verse like Alma 32:21 and wanting to see other verses that have "faith" in them that are similar to Alma 32:21. That's why the first verse returned (Ether 12:6) is more "similar" to Alma 32:21 than Alma 44:4 is.

It's more like an automatic cross-reference. It tries to maintain the same context a the verse you started in.

Second, qualitative results are hard to judge. If you wanted a verse more like Alma 32:21, then the search I posted seems more "relevant" to me. If you want general scriptures on faith, then it would be hard to argue either way.

So in summary for usage:

1. General topic search: is great.
2. Word or phrase search based on a given verse: Nothing exists for this yet except my prototype (that I know of).

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:27 pm
by mkmurray
Follow over to [thread=208]this thread[/thread] for the prototype.