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LDS Account

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:55 pm
by McDanielCA
LDS Account was originally posted on the main page of LDS Tech. It was written by Ben Hutchins..

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------http://ldsaccount.lds.org/
LDS Account is a single user name and password for any person who interacts with online LDS Church resources. LDS Account will become the primary account authentication credentials for most Church sites and applications. This will reduce development costs that would be incurred as the user interfaces change, or as upgrades to security and the registration process are required. Unlike today’s authentication, which requires our customers to memorize many user names and passwords, the goal of LDS Account is to become a branded single sign-on solution that is centrally managed.

When registering for an LDS Account, members of the LDS Church are asked to provide their MRN (membership record number) and their confirmation date. Members can obtain this information by asking their ward clerk for their Individual Ordinance Summary. A member’s MRN can also be found on the back of the temple recommend.

Account recovery (such as forgotten usernames and passwords) is handled through the e-mail address that the customer used to register. Although there is not currently a phone number or global support desk available to non-employees, scalable support models for customers who need assistance beyond self-service capabilities are being investigated.

While anyone can register for an LDS Account, when a member registers using their MRN and confirmation date, Church applications like lds.org will be able to take advantage of LDS Account credentials to determine and grant appropriate access based on their current role (e.g. bishop, stake president, etc.). As a member’s role changes, so can the access level of their LDS Account.

Over forty Web sites and applications use LDS Account credentials for authentication. While most of these Web sites are internal, there are a few publicly available sites that use LDS Account, such as the LDS Art Competition and a religious class registration site for Logan, Utah institute students. Stake and ward Web sites and familysearch.org customers (which currently use a Net ID password) will be migrated to an LDS Account in the near future.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:23 am
by RossEvans
telfordca wrote:LDS Account was originally posted on the main page of LDS Tech. It was written by Ben Hutchins..

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------http://ldsaccount.lds.org/
While anyone can register for an LDS Account, when a member registers using their MRN and confirmation date, Church applications like lds.org will be able to take advantage of LDS Account credentials to determine and grant appropriate access based on their current role (e.g. bishop, stake president, etc.). As a member’s role changes, so can the access level of their LDS Account.


This is welcome news. My understanding is that, with the exception of certain top unit leadership callings (e.g. bishop, stake president, etc.), central databases at CHQ do not know what members' callings are. I did not think that most MLS calling data is uploaded. Am I wrong, or is that going to change?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:55 am
by mkmurray
telfordca wrote:...Stake and ward Web sites and familysearch.org customers (which currently use a Net ID password) will be migrated to an LDS Account in the near future.

Does this also mean that only members of the Church would be able to log into FamilySearch.org?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:10 am
by techgy
mkmurray wrote:Does this also mean that only members of the Church would be able to log into FamilySearch.org?


You beat me to this question. I had the same thought which I believe may have been expressed in an earlier thread on a similar subject.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:34 am
by russellhltn
mkmurray wrote:Does this also mean that only members of the Church would be able to log into FamilySearch.org?


Certainly some functionality of FamilySearch would be limited to members, but they have stated in the past that they want to open nFS to non-members.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:50 am
by mkmurray
RussellHltn wrote:Certainly some functionality of FamilySearch would be limited to members, but they have stated in the past that they want to open nFS to non-members.

That's what I thought...so do you login in order to do member-only tasks? General use of the site would be unrestricted?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:01 am
by aebrown
mkmurray wrote:Does this also mean that only members of the Church would be able to log into FamilySearch.org?


I believe the answer to this is in the original article:

telfordca wrote:While anyone can register for an LDS Account, when a member registers using their MRN and confirmation date, Church applications like lds.org will be able to take advantage of LDS Account credentials to determine and grant appropriate access based on their current role (e.g. bishop, stake president, etc.). As a member’s role changes, so can the access level of their LDS Account.


Note that it says that "anyone can register for an LDS Account." Indeed, the first question when you register for an LDS Account is "Are you an LDS Church Member". If you answer No, you aren't asked for membership number or confirmation date.

So it seems to me that the design of LDSAccount already allows for people to use a consistent way to login to FamilySearch, for example, but have different capabilities depending on the properties of that LDSAccount (which could even include the particular callings of a particular LDS member, as stored in CDOL or some other database).

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:17 am
by russellhltn
mkmurray wrote:That's what I thought...so do you login in order to do member-only tasks? General use of the site would be unrestricted?


nFS is currently designed around a collaboration model rather then a reference model. In order to collaborate, it needs to know who you are. That may change as Record Search is added since in Labs you don't need any login to search for things.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:25 am
by mkmurray
Thank you to both of you for your answers. It all makes sense now. :)

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:56 pm
by mattprasmussen
telfordca wrote:http://tech.lds.org/forum/../index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=381&Itemid=1Stake and ward Web sites and familysearch.org customers (which currently use a Net ID password) will be migrated to an LDS Account in the near future.

Very good move but I'm puzzled why LUWS and FS accounts can't be migrated now. What's the incentive to sign up for LDS Account before then unless you're already using one of the apps it does handle (which seem to be mainly for employees or higher-up leaders.)