JamesAnderson wrote:Yes there are problems with 'customized players' and wifi radios, it's such taht a well-known service known as Accuradio can't be received directly although it's in .wma format. Basically if it's a bare stream with metadata telling title/artist or program/subject or host, that almost always works. With many players other than Winamp or Windows Media though, the player gums up the works.
It frustrates me when services launch in a dumbed down restricted mode, and ignore established standards.
If services would follow well supported standards then the service would be widely available anyway and the dumbed down mode could then be added on top of that. For instance a web-player may be nice, but windows users could listen in windows media player without one. When there is ONLY a flash based web player, it cuts out loads of people, and even encourages illicit online service reflectors - like the one I'm going to setup tonight with mplayer and shoutcast.
Of course if we only want 32bit/64bit windows users (and the odd sneaky linux users) to listen to the station then we did the right thing... but why would we want that?
What's more ironic is that the sort of people that get cut out of this service are the sort of people who are placed to be more vocal in these forums.
But I guess I have a few teeth left that I haven't worn out gnashing at move networks, that I can wear out gnashing at this.
Vatican radio on the other hand does it quite well:http://www.radiovaticana.org/en1/diretta.asp
It supports wma, real (and mp3 in the left column) and no need for any freaky platform-restricted plugins.
Their on-demand is FAST and IMHO beats move networks:http://www.radiovaticana.org/en1/on_demand.asp
(For sure, lets have move networks plugins for people who need it, but there's something wrong if thats all there is. And it is.)
If there was an html set of pages as an alternative to move networks, I predict that most people would use it because the move networks interface is too slow and awkward. And then we would have the data needed to encourage move networks to improve.
end-of-rant till this time next year.