Recording Baptisms

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lewiswf1
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Recording Baptisms

Postby lewiswf1 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:32 pm

Question regarding recording baptisms for 8 yr olds, born in the covenant, there is some difference in what the form says vs what the church handbook says. My question is around the requirements for signing the baptismal form.

1) Baptism form, says that a parent or guardian must sign the document
2) Policy on 18.8.3, says that the interviewer from the bishopric must sign the document

I get that there are two places to sign the document, one for bishopric and one for member. Should the order be:
1) Clerk prepares form for interview
2) Parent signs form and gives to bishopric
3) Bishopric completes baptism interview and signs the form
4) After baptism clerk receives the form and records the baptism and uploads the form
Sound correct?

Thanks

Wattsuk
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Re: Recording Baptisms

Postby Wattsuk » Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:01 am

The order of step 2 and 3 doesn't really matter. Typically that will all happen at the same time.
Just ensure that the form is signed before the baptism is the only tip.

lewiswf1
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Re: Recording Baptisms

Postby lewiswf1 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:31 am

Thanks for the help, are both signatures required? If they aren't both signed, what are the consequences? Audit failures, etc?

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Re: Recording Baptisms

Postby Wattsuk » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:10 am

It may come up in a membership audit, can't recall that off the top of my head.
It could be retrospectively corrected I guess in a worst case scenario.

Definitely worth pushing for both signatures.
What is considered best practise and what is considered bare minimum are sometimes different things when it comes to record keeping.

I always go for the belts and braces approach. Usually saves you time further down the line.

lewiswf1
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Re: Recording Baptisms

Postby lewiswf1 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:45 pm

Thanks again for the help

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Re: Recording Baptisms

Postby BrianEdwards » Mon May 03, 2021 8:15 am

If they aren't both signed, what are the consequences
I'd also consider viewing this from the other side, as in "why do we need signatures"? Besides the important aspect of helping ensure that everyone (parents and Bishopric) has knowingly given permission prior to baptizing the child, this is an important safeguard for those future cases where issues arise. Having the full set of signatures will really help if later on, a parent takes issue with their child having been baptized. Anyone who has ever been involved in a situation like that, knows how difficult it is.


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