Who can set apart a Ward Clerk?

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Postby aaronmarksmith » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:12 pm

It's generally a member of the Stake Presidency, but may be delegated to a High Councilor. I think I was serving on the HC when that letter came out, as I do remember seeing it. It's pretty hard to get your hands on a copy if you're not in a leadership position, though.

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Postby aebrown » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:26 am

geeksmith wrote:It's generally a member of the Stake Presidency, but may be delegated to a High Councilor. I think I was serving on the HC when that letter came out, as I do remember seeing it. It's pretty hard to get your hands on a copy if you're not in a leadership position, though.


As mentioned earlier in this thread, there is no provision for delegating the setting apart of a ward clerk to a high councilor; the letter speaks only of assistant ward clerks. Those who actually need to know can certainly put their hands on the letter.
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Postby jlstoddard » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:26 am

Actually the Stake President usually or member of Presidency (There is a Matrix in HI #1) is one who sets apart a Ward Clerk

Assistant clerks can be by a member of presidency or high council member or designated

hooson wrote:Book 1 of the CHI, current edition, states that a Ward Clerk is set apart by a member of the Stake Presidency.

One of the counsellors in our Stake Presidency - recently called - has inherited a CHI which has a handwritten note in the margin stating that an official letter dated 23 May 2009 stated that Ward Clerks may now be set apart by a member of the High Council if assigned by a member of the Stake Presidency.

We haven't been able to verify this anywhere - can anyone confirm? Better yet, is there a way of viewing the letter itself?

Thanks in advance.

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Postby dannykos » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:50 pm

If my stake president asked me to do something I thought was incorrect, I'd check the handbook - and politely refer him to the page which contradicts his instructions.

nothing wrong with correcting incorrectness, as long as it's done correctly ;)

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Correcting correctly

Postby gdbrown-p40 » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:14 pm

dannykos wrote:.....nothing wrong with correcting incorrectness, as long as it's done correctly ;)


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Postby charly3358-p40 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:49 am

dannykos wrote:..and politely refer him to the page which contradicts his instructions.

nothing wrong with correcting incorrectness, as long as it's done correctly ;)


If you are brave enough......:rolleyes:
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Letter of May 23

Postby golfteam » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:36 am

jstoddard wrote:Actually the Stake President usually or member of Presidency (There is a Matrix in HI #1) is one who sets apart a Ward Clerk

Assistant clerks can be by a member of presidency or high council member or designated

The letter is actually dated May 23, 2007 and references assistant clerks, and ask that it be written in the CHB #1. NOT Ward clerks, who need to be set apart by a member of the Stake Presidency.

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Postby rpyne » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:21 am

charly3358 wrote:If you are brave enough......:rolleyes:


While I was serving as stake clerk a few years ago, the instruction I received directly from a visiting member of the Seventy is that clerks should become "experts on the General Handbook of Instructions" and provide policy guidance to their stake presidents and bishops when needed. He went on to instruct us that to the greatest extent possible, the clerks and assistant clerks should take care of all administrative duties so that the stake president and bishops can concentrate their time and energy to the ministering duties.

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Postby johnshaw » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:59 am

charly3358 wrote:If you are brave enough......:rolleyes:


As a called Ward or Stake Clerk, you shouldn't need to be brave enough. The leadership should be humble enough to be counseled correctly. If you don't want me to provide that kind of guidance and counsel, release me now, otherwise listen to what I have to say. Then, watch me support you with all my heart, might, mind, and strength whatever is decided, even if I think it's wrong.

I always tell my clerks, as long as it's in private, you should feel like you can say anything to your Bishop by way of advice, observation, counsel, policy, etc... but when a decision is made, you're the biggest advocate!


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