I think it's a good idea, but it implies that one workflow works for everyone. This could easily turn into a "be careful what you wish for" situation.johnshaw wrote:Wouldn't it be nice to have some kind of a workflow app that we could record everything in. Simple, Calling entered in... assigned to Bishopric, 1st or 2nd, release extended to current calling occupant, sustained, set apart --> THEN entered into MLS automatically
Recording releases and new callings...
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Re: Recording releases and new callings...
Taken to an extreme, even the names of members, such as in a list of speakers, could be considered membership data.RossEvans wrote:In my opinion callings are "membership related" because MLS membership data includes this information. That does not necessarily apply to everything else that occurs in Sacrament Meeting, such as speakers.
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I am not inclined to take it "to an extreme," and prefer to hew to the letter of the policy. But as I said above, my opinion is not authoritative. If you need an authoritative answer to that hypothetical question in your stake, ask your stake president.sbradshaw wrote:Taken to an extreme, even the names of members, such as in a list of speakers, could be considered membership data.RossEvans wrote:In my opinion callings are "membership related" because MLS membership data includes this information. That does not necessarily apply to everything else that occurs in Sacrament Meeting, such as speakers.
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Re: Recording releases and new callings...
Once a calling is 'approved' by the bishopric it seems like the remaining information isrussellhltn wrote:I think it's a good idea, but it implies that one workflow works for everyone. This could easily turn into a "be careful what you wish for" situation.johnshaw wrote:Wouldn't it be nice to have some kind of a workflow app that we could record everything in. Simple, Calling entered in... assigned to Bishopric, 1st or 2nd, release extended to current calling occupant, sustained, set apart --> THEN entered into MLS automatically
- person responsible to issue the call
flag or date for call extended
maybe a flag for call accepted
link to any callings to be released
- calls each person is assigned to extend
calls/releases ready for sustaining
Ideas on other data that would be useful in this process?
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Re: Recording releases and new callings...
As JohnShaw mentioned, the release needs to be extended to someone (if someone has the calling currently), which implies a person being assigned to extend the release, and a workflow step to record that it was done. You may have intended to imply all this by "link to any callings to be released," but I thought I'd make it explicit.jonesrk wrote:Ideas on other data that would be useful in this process?
Also, for stake callings, the bishop needs to be consulted.
Also, for priesthood ordinations, there is a workflow as well. I'm not trying to goldplate the requirements here, but if someone is starting to think about this, it might be good to envision a design general enough to handle AP ordinations at the ward level, and MP ordinations at the stake level (which is quite different).
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Agreed. It is already confusing enough that the MP ordination record instructs the bearer to give the completed form to the ward clerk, when the stake clerk has an equal need to receive a copy of the completed form. This ambiguity consistently trips up new high councilors, who think their responsibility is finished when they hand the completed form to the ward clerk.aebrown wrote:it might be good to envision a design general enough to handle AP ordinations at the ward level, and MP ordinations at the stake level (which is quite different).
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