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Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:43 pm
by marcfromm
The member is divorced, the ex-spouse is excommunicated yet active member record still states sealed to spouse. The active member was recently civilly married after updating her record with her new husband (member also) her record says sealed to spouse, but she is not sealed to this spouse. Thus this will create confusion down the road making clerks and leaders think these two people are sealed when they are not.

Is there a way to remove the sealed = Yes from the record?

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:51 pm
by russellhltn
You might want to contact local unit support.

Since her sealing hasn't been cancelled, she is still sealed. However, I'd think it would be a "Y" next to "sealed to prior spouse" rather than "sealed to spouse". (Unless they've changed the format of the record.)

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:58 pm
by marcfromm
It only says, "Sealed to Spouse Yes." To make it more confusing her new husband's record states the same thing. Thus both records state sealed to spouse, but the spouses are different people. I don't know if his ex-spouse is excommunicated as well. I would think with the wife in this situation, whose ex-spouse is excommunicated, it would not say sealed to spouse, since how can you be sealed to someone not on church records.

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:10 pm
by sbradshaw
As long as the wife is faithful to her covenants, she still has rights to all the blessings of the sealing ordinance. That's why she's still considered sealed – because she still has all the blessings of being sealed and she's still in the covenant. If she and her new husband decide that they want to be sealed to each other, there's a process for a previous sealing to be nullified, with approval from the First Presidency. This is usually only done if there are plans to be sealed again soon after.

Everyone needs to be sealed, since it's a saving ordinance. In cases where one spouse abandons his covenants, and the other spouse never gets sealed to anyone else, the details of who the other spouse is sealed to in the eternities is figured out on the other side.

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:26 pm
by marcfromm
OK. I will leave the records as they are and not pursue further action. Thanks.

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:36 pm
by russellhltn
sbradshaw wrote:As long as the wife is faithful to her covenants, she still has rights to all the blessings of the sealing ordinance. That's why she's still considered sealed – because she still has all the blessings of being sealed and she's still in the covenant. If she and her new husband decide that they want to be sealed to each other, there's a process for a previous sealing to be nullified, with approval from the First Presidency. This is usually only done if there are plans to be sealed again soon after.

Details can be found in Handbook 1: 3.6

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:08 pm
by marcfromm
Yes. I still don't see the purpose, or blessing, of being labeled as sealed to an excommunicated member. I guess that's a doctrine question. For the membership purposes, the ambiguity will remain in the records.

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:38 am
by nelsonleqa1
I'm in the same boat , what's the process? My ex wife is excommunicated and we are supposedly still sealed, I met someone new and we plan to marry in a few months, is the process more simpler now or do I still have to go through the long process? I'm confused

Re: Member is divorced, spouse excomunicated yet record still states sealed to spouse

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:02 am
by lajackson
nelsonleqa1 wrote:I met someone new and we plan to marry in a few months, is the process more simpler now or do I still have to go through the long process?

Your bishop should be able to answer any of your questions with the help of Handbook 1 and your stake president. Your bishop will help you make an Application to the First Presidency for a sealing clearance if you wish to be sealed to your new spouse.