Children of divorced parent - two wards

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rpyne
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Postby rpyne » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:17 pm

The problem that arises is that even though we may create an out-of-unit-member record, that does not keep us updated on ordinances. There needs to be a mechanism for updaing out-of-unit member records from CHQ.

One situation we have is a divorced family where the mother has legal custody, and therefor the records, but the children, including two young men, actually attend church in our ward more often than in their mother's ward. Since the records are in the other ward, that is where ordinations occur. Since we don't have those records or access to them, we have no way of knowing when the ordinations occur.

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Postby jdlessley » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:17 pm

rpyne wrote:The problem that arises is that even though we may create an out-of-unit-member record, that does not keep us updated on ordinances. There needs to be a mechanism for updaing out-of-unit member records from CHQ.

One situation we have is a divorced family where the mother has legal custody, and therefor the records, but the children, including two young men, actually attend church in our ward more often than in their mother's ward. Since the records are in the other ward, that is where ordinations occur. Since we don't have those records or access to them, we have no way of knowing when the ordinations occur.
There is not substitute for good communications between bishoprics, or clerks, familiar with the family situation. Granted software such as MLS has come a long way to replace doing things the 'old fashion' way, but there will always be a need for direct communications to handle the situations MLS has not caught up to taking care of.
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Re: Children of divorced parent - two wards

Postby Amandaticelds » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:24 pm

I have joint custody with my previous husband and we both are active. This has caused a lot of heartache for me as the church has no stance on what to do in this situation. I left an abusive relationship so I had to move out and started attending a new ward and the kids records remain in the homeward with their dad. It is really frustrating as a mom not to have your kids records with you. The church needs to come up with a solution to the problem. There should be a way that the records are in both wards because the kids attend both wards equally.

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Re: Children of divorced parent - two wards

Postby eblood66 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:48 pm

Amandaticelds wrote:There should be a way that the records are in both wards because the kids attend both wards equally.

This is a very old thread and things have changed since the last post. Your clerk can now create out-of-unit records for your children. These records will automatically have all information about your children and will update automatically when ordinances are done. This information will be available to leaders of your ward and the children will show up on roles. They can also be given callings in your ward if your bishop and the other bishop agree that is appropriate.

Unfortunately, there are a few tools which haven't been updated since this ability was added. The main offender is the directory on lds.org. It doesn't currently show out-of-unit records. But I think LDS Tools does (I'm not sure and we don't currently have any such records ourselves so I can't check for certain). But even the directory should be updated eventually when resources are available.

One ward does have to actually hold the records and that bishop is responsible for advancement and ordination interviews as well as temple recommend interviews. But appropriate use of out-of-unit records should allow both wards to better minister to the children.

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Re: Children of divorced parent - two wards

Postby lajackson » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:11 am

eblood66 wrote:I think LDS Tools does

LDS Tools does well in maintaining out-of-unit records. Hopefully, LDS.org will catch up as changes are made there at the main website.


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