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Postby eyoungberg-p40 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:06 pm

lajackson wrote:Of course not. If it were written down, we wouldn't be having this discussion. [grin]

We no longer use PCAnywhere. When we did, we were on dialup, and someone at the receiving end had to set the modem to answer the phone. CHQ was always very antsy when we did this and insisted that it immediately be reset to not answer the phone after our work was done. Our stake president concurred.

The turning off of computers when not in the building is from the September 2004 phone call. I realize that was a long time ago. Subsequent discussions with the help desk also suggested that this be done.

And at many times of the year, it is not wise to leave the computers on because the power is not reliable.


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Postby techgy » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:50 am

Has anyone had any issues with upgrading a Desktop 5.5 system with all the current upgrades from Microsoft, including SP3?

We have a couple of administrative pc's that have not been updated and after reviewing this thread, I'm a little hesitant in doing major updates. :rolleyes:
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Postby russellhltn » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:07 am

Techgy wrote:Has anyone had any issues with upgrading a Desktop 5.5 system with all the current upgrades from Microsoft, including SP3?


I've upgraded all of our machines to SP3. One machine has Internet access and is set for automatic updates. So far, no issues.
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Postby techgy » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:31 am

RussellHltn wrote:I've upgraded all of our machines to SP3. One machine has Internet access and is set for automatic updates. So far, no issues.


Did you bring the pc up to sp3 gradually, or all at once?
I have sp3 on a cd and it would be easier to just install the upgrade from the cd instead of walking through dozens of upgrades between sp2 and sp3.
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Postby aebrown » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:31 am

Techgy wrote:Has anyone had any issues with upgrading a Desktop 5.5 system with all the current upgrades from Microsoft, including SP3?

We have a couple of administrative pc's that have not been updated and after reviewing this thread, I'm a little hesitant in doing major updates. :rolleyes:


This continues to be a frustrating issue for me. The Desktop 5.5 instructions say:
Now that Local Unit Computer Desktop Version 5.5 is installed, Windows security patches, new virus definitions, and other updates can be received from the administration office through the data transmission process in MLS. Updates will be made available as needed, but it is important to use the Send/Receive Changes feature weekly and apply all updates promptly to make sure the computer is always protected as fully as possible. (Updates may increase transmission times.)
And yet as near as I can determine, Windows security patches are not being sent through the MLS data transmission process, even though years have now passed since the above instructions were sent. If anyone has evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.

It doesn't seem like a good security policy to be so far behind on Windows updates, and yet the above quote seems to be saying that we should be getting such updates from the Church rather than making our own choices.

It sounds to me like the Church had optimistic plans to deliver OS and antivirus updates this way, but for whatever reasons implementation of these plans has been delayed. We have been told to update antivirus definitions manually at least every three months, but we have received no instructions on OS updates. That is a very unfortunate omission, leaving individual units with unnecessary confusion and indecision.

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Postby techgy » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:34 am

Alan_Brown wrote:This continues to be a frustrating issue for me. The Desktop 5.5 instructions say:
And yet as near as I can determine, Windows security patches are not being sent through the MLS data transmission process, even though years have now passed since the above instructions were sent. If anyone has evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it....


Your comment is EXACTLY why I was concerned in regards to doing the security updates. I had heard the same thing when the Desktop 5.5 system came out and, as you said, I've seen no evidence that any of the essential security updates for MS have been received.

If anyone on the GSD is monitoring this forum it would nice to have some feedback. How about it?
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Postby russellhltn » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:36 am

Techgy wrote:Did you bring the pc up to sp3 gradually, or all at once?


SP3 from CD. However in my case, I think I did it on replacement computers prior to installing MLS. At this point I only have two "old" computers. Neither with an Internet connection. I can't remember if I updated them or not.
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Postby jdlessley » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:49 pm

Techgy wrote:Has anyone had any issues with upgrading a Desktop 5.5 system with all the current upgrades from Microsoft, including SP3?
I have upgraded the stake computer, Dell Optiplex GX280, to SP3 using a CD. Those updates made some changes to the Desktop 5.5 configurations. I can't remember all the changes right now. Because of those changes I do not recommend doing the upgrades. I have been monitoring the computer closely but have not noticed any issues regarding system security or with any programs such as MLS. The Symantec updates are kept up to date regularly as a precaution.
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Postby techgy » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:09 pm

jdlessley wrote:I have upgraded the stake computer, Dell Optiplex GX280, to SP3 using a CD. Those updates made some changes to the Desktop 5.5 configurations. I can't remember all the changes right now. Because of those changes I do not recommend doing the upgrades. I have been monitoring the computer closely but have not noticed any issues regarding system security or with any programs such as MLS. The Symantec updates are kept up to date regularly as a precaution.


This is kinda where I'm at also. I've been maintaining the AV definitions, but have withheld doing any of the OS upgrades because of my uncertainty as to the effects on Desktop 5.5

I guess I'm taking the stance - "if it ain't broke - don't fix it."
What I'd like to have is some feedback from the guru's at the GSD giving us some guidance on what's the best route to take. So far, no comments.
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Postby lajackson » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:12 pm

Techgy wrote:If anyone on the GSD is monitoring this forum it would nice to have some feedback. How about it?


Well, the first thing GSD will say is that they do not deal with Administrative computers, except that they will help the stake technology specialist get them on the network. Everything else for their support comes from the MLS help desk through Member Services.


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