T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby russellhltn » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:46 pm

Since you have access to TM, when you go into the managed switch, do you see "Meraki MR33 Cloud Managed AP" under the LLDP for each of your APs? If not, then it's likely they're not wired directly to the switch like they should be.
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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby Mikerowaved » Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:46 am

russellhltn wrote:Since you have access to TM, when you go into the managed switch, do you see "Meraki MR33 Cloud Managed AP" under the LLDP for each of your APs? If not, then it's likely they're not wired directly to the switch like they should be.
Yep. Just found one in my stake center like that. It was added after the original ones and wasn't added correctly. Pretty easy to spot. In TM, click on your firewall, then DEVICES --> ACCESS POINTS. They all should be on their own VLAN, which is the same VLAN as the new managed switch. Mine is showing as 192.168.12.x, all except my one rogue AP; it's on 192.168.111.x.

Another way (like russellhltn mentioned) is go to DEVICES --> SWITCHES and click on Manage. Look (but don't touch) at the assignments there. Mine shows Ports 1-3 are AP's with another AP showing up on Port 7, which is assigned to Public.

I'm not positive if this will cause the problems others have posted about, but it's not correct and my OCD won't let me leave it configured like that.
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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby russellhltn » Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:39 am

Mikerowaved wrote:I'm not positive if this will cause the problems others have posted about, but it's not correct and my OCD won't let me leave it configured like that.
According to a email I got from mht:
A Meraki AP will not be able to connect to the internet if the Switch Port is still configured as "Public" in TM. This will also provide a bad, hard to troubleshoot wireless experience.
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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby Mikerowaved » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:53 am

russellhltn wrote:According to a email I got from mht:
A Meraki AP will not be able to connect to the internet if the Switch Port is still configured as "Public" in TM. This will also provide a bad, hard to troubleshoot wireless experience.
Now that you mention it, I recall reading that. Before I move it to Port 4 on the switch, I'll see if it currently affects the ability to properly get and/or keep a connection on a wireless device.
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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby lajackson » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:02 pm

Mikerowaved wrote:Before I move it to Port 4 on the switch, I'll see if it currently affects the ability to properly get and/or keep a connection on a wireless device.
Technically, it can be on any port of the managed switch, as long as that port is set as an AP. Still, I would move it to port 4 and set that one to AP.

The "preferred" configuration seems to be to put all of the APs on the first few ports of the managed switch, and leave the public connections to the higher numbered ports.

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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby Mikerowaved » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:28 am

Mikerowaved wrote:
russellhltn wrote:According to a email I got from mht:
A Meraki AP will not be able to connect to the internet if the Switch Port is still configured as "Public" in TM. This will also provide a bad, hard to troubleshoot wireless experience.
Now that you mention it, I recall reading that. Before I move it to Port 4 on the switch, I'll see if it currently affects the ability to properly get and/or keep a connection on a wireless device.
As a follow-up, I was finally able to test the misconfigured AP and can confirm it will allow connected devices to access the building's LAN, but not access the Internet. The problem was, it was wired to a Public dumb switch and not directly to the managed switch.

I deactivated the AP, changed the cable to Port 4 of the managed switch, activated it again, rebooted it, and it now shows up on the proper 192.168.12.x VLAN. Connected devices now have Internet access.

One other thing I noticed - our older 10/100 dumb switches were swapped out with GigE switches. Thanks FM!
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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby russellhltn » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:22 am

Something I ran across trying to look up information. From the Meetinghouse Network Troubleshooting Guide
Under "Wireless Access Points (AP) Troubleshooting Guide", 1 a iii 3 c i:
"Power injectors and in line switches are not permitted. Meraki APs must connect to Meraki switches to function properly."
Switches is understood, but the prohibition on power injectors surprise me.
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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby lajackson » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:47 pm

russellhltn wrote:Switches is understood, but the prohibition on power injectors surprise me.
The ports on the new managed switches provide PoE. Wouldn't another power box just confuse things?

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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby russellhltn » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:23 pm

lajackson wrote:The ports on the new managed switches provide PoE. Wouldn't another power box just confuse things?
I wouldn't think so. I saw some installations done that way pre-managed switches and it didn't cause a problem. The AP is powered by the power injector instead of the switch.

My best guess is they're using some extra lines, or perhaps wanting to be able to power cycle the AP from the switch.
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Re: T&C Splash screen for new Liahona SSID

Postby 19rgiles » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:51 pm

A couple of our chapels are having issues with the T&C Splash screen/Wifi in general. Apple products are not connecting nor pulling up the screen. Androids are connecting about half the time! We as missionaries spend time in the corner of the chapel so we might be a bit far from a router but half the time the wifi works fine. Not sure what we can do to reset the router. Anyone seeing the same issue with Apple products not being able to connect?


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