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Family History Activity Report - Are only Baptisms counted?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:46 pm
by RayLPghPA
I'm not sure where it came from but I remember hearing that only baptisms are counted. However, I have been unable to confirm (or refute) this belief.

I asked the question to other Ward and Stake Temple and Family History Consultants and Leaders and have received replies that (1) only baptisms are counted and also (2) that one individual is recorded as a submitter regardless of the ordinance type. The closest thing to an answer has been the wording from the definition of 'Members Submitting -- "...a submitter is defined as an individual member who prints a Family Ordinance Request (FOR) or a family ordinance card to take to the temple or who shares an ordinance with the temple." I'm sure than can be interpreted to mean ANY ordinance but, based on what I've seen, that particular wording is not as clear as some might believe. So...

My questions:

(1) If a person prints an ordinance card or shares a baptism with the temple (or a baptism with any other ordinances), would you agree that the FHAR would count that person as a single submitter for the month?

(2) If a person prints an ordinance card or shares one or more ordinances that DO NOT include a baptism, does the FHAR count that person as a submitter or not record the person as a submitter since there was no baptism?

(3) If a person prints an ordinance card for or shares (all for the same person) an Initiatory in January, Sealing to Parents in February and Sealing to Spouse in March, is that person reported as a Submitter for all the months?

(4) Can you provide any official reference(s) to support your response?

Thanks so much for any input you might offer.

Re: Family History Activity Report - Are only Baptisms counted?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:05 pm
by nathanpokipala
FHAR

Does anyone know when a number is included in the FHAReprt? I am being told that until an endowment is complete w/temple stamp and recorded by the temple that number will not appear on the FHAR In other words, if we prepared 10 names for baptism, did them along with confirmations and iniatories it still does not show on the FHAR until the endowment is completed and recorded by the temple. Is this true or does the numbers show up earlier on the report?

Thank you

Nathan

Re: Family History Activity Report - Are only Baptisms counted?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:05 pm
by jwthomasbennion
No, I've been told it is when the ordinance reservation is actually printed (or claimed to be printed). That applies to any ordinance, and is what goes into the FHAR. I have been an FHC director over 10 stakes for nearly 5 years now. But I could still be wrong. Check with the FamilySearch Community group "All Temple & Family History Consultants" at https://community.familysearch.org/en/g ... onsultants -- you may have to "Join" first.

Re: Family History Activity Report - Are only Baptisms counted?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:09 am
by sbradshaw
jwthomasbennion wrote:when the ordinance reservation is actually printed (or claimed to be printed)

Just reserving a name doesn't count towards the Family History Activity Report – it has to be either printed, or shared with the temple.

nathanpokipala wrote:if we prepared 10 names for baptism, did them along with confirmations and iniatories it still does not show on the FHAR until the endowment is completed and recorded by the temple. Is this true or does the numbers show up earlier on the report?

The Family History Activity Report is generated monthly, so the number won't go up right away, but doing a baptism or any other ordinance should be enough to cause the number to increase the next time the report is generated. However, the number won't increase by 10 unless each of the 10 names were printed by 10 unique ward members. The report counts the number of ward/stake members who have "submitted" (printed or shared with the temple) at least one name during the year – not the number of names that were printed. So, if the same member prints 2 or 10 names in a year, it's the same – the number in the report will go up by one, and any additional names printed by that member won't have any affect on the report until the next year.