Best Way to use Calendar for 2 Wards in 1 Building

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techgy wrote:I am aware of the differences between Restrictions and Events. However, it's a necessity if you wish to block out times for a specific ward to use for their activities.
Yes it is necessary if you choose to block out times, but one needs to understand that it is still necessary to add and event if you want it on the calendar. Its also important to understand that an restriction cannot be put in place down to the auxiliary level only at the unit level so anyone in the unit can schedule and event during that time, even though the restriction was put in place for a specific auxiliary.

Personalty I don't see a need for many restrictions since scheduled events will block the time and the building. But I can also understand at times it is necessary. I like first come first served concept of scheduling.
techgy wrote:The need for a building level calendar is that it's being requested by the agent Bishop. Trying to use the "Weekly View" to see events occurring in a specific building within the stake isn't working too well. Once the bugs are cleaned up that view will be helpful.
It hard for me to understand why that does not work since its work well for my unit and about a couple of thousand other units that have no problems looking at the week view when scheduling events.
techgy wrote:The need for a building level calendar is that it's being requested by the agent Bishop.
techgy wrote:I'm working on his request for a "building calendar" but it's a slow process.

The only way to do this so that all wards in the building can view the calendar as well as add events would be to make a Stake Calendar. In my opinion that is improper use of the calendar system.
techgy wrote:Everyone is still thinking in regards to the old calendars we used with the previous ward web sites. My plans were to have a meeting with the individual whom the Bishop had chosen to handle the calendar and train him. That fell apart when I discovered that his records were not in the stake but that he was an "out of unit" member of the ward.
If I were you I would tell the Bishop involved "NO" this is not going to happen, we are not going backwards. We will not make a Stake Calendar layer for scheduling a building when there is already a system supplied by the church for scheduling the building. That it is time for him and others to get familiar with the new system and use it as designed. Then I would ask him when he would like me to visit his ward in order to train them on the use of the calendar. Just because he is a Bishop does not mean you have to jump through hoops just to fit his agenda when it not the proper why to use the system.
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Re: What's The Best Way to....

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Gary_Miller wrote:
techgy wrote:I am aware of the differences between Restrictions and Events. However, it's a necessity if you wish to block out times for a specific ward to use for their activities.
Yes it is necessary if you choose to block out times, but one needs to understand that it is still necessary to add and event if you want it on the calendar. Its also important to understand that an restriction cannot be put in place down to the auxiliary level only at the unit level so anyone in the unit can schedule and event during that time, even though the restriction was put in place for a specific auxiliary.
Thanks for the info. I'm sure it will be helpful. Up to recently I haven't delved into the Calendar with a lot of detail. That's certainly changed over the past week or so :)
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Techincally both wards can schedule on there own calendars and you can use the week view too see everything in a specific building.
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jeffevannelson wrote:Techincally both wards can schedule on there own calendars and you can use the week view too see everything in a specific building.
Yes, that's been suggested - if you can deal with the "bugs" in the week view. With no calendars selected and no locations selected the week view often displays events when it shouldn't. However, as you stated, it's currently the only method of viewing events in another building within the stake.
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techgy wrote:Yes, that's been suggested - if you can deal with the "bugs" in the week view. With no calendars selected and no locations selected the week view often displays events when it shouldn't. However, as you stated, it's currently the only method of viewing events in another building within the stake.
It only seems to be a "bug" for a select few. I have had no problems with this bug.
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techgy wrote:
jeffevannelson wrote:Techincally both wards can schedule on there own calendars and you can use the week view too see everything in a specific building.
Yes, that's been suggested - if you can deal with the "bugs" in the week view. With no calendars selected and no locations selected the week view often displays events when it shouldn't. However, as you stated, it's currently the only method of viewing events in another building within the stake.
Although there are possibly additional events shown, I don't see how that prevents the view from still being useful. You just have to ignore any events that aren't at the location you're interested in. Since each location is marked with a little building icon of a different color that isn't difficult. It's slightly inconvenient but hardly a show stopping bug.
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techgy wrote:
jeffevannelson wrote:Techincally both wards can schedule on there own calendars and you can use the week view too see everything in a specific building.
Yes, that's been suggested - if you can deal with the "bugs" in the week view. With no calendars selected and no locations selected the week view often displays events when it shouldn't. However, as you stated, it's currently the only method of viewing events in another building within the stake.
Are you referring to this issue that you need to uncheck and recheck your selected calendars?
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jeffevannelson wrote:
techgy wrote:
jeffevannelson wrote:Techincally both wards can schedule on there own calendars and you can use the week view too see everything in a specific building.
Yes, that's been suggested - if you can deal with the "bugs" in the week view. With no calendars selected and no locations selected the week view often displays events when it shouldn't. However, as you stated, it's currently the only method of viewing events in another building within the stake.
Are you referring to this issue that you need to uncheck and recheck your selected calendars?
I think he's referring to the bug described in this thread: https://tech.lds.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 56#p114856
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It would be a nice feature if the Calendar system would allow a "print only" view of all activities in the Location (building). We train our calendar editors to always label each event with the ward/unit ## first, Organization (RS, PR) second, and a brief event title. Further details in the description box assist while looking online at the calendar.

Additionally, it would be nice if there was a feature to show all scheduled activities in a Location (building) by room or resource. If the need arises to consolidate 3 rooms to 1 room due to improper set up, each event will be left without a room assignment, for the rooms that are removed.
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Re: Best Way to use Calendar for 2 Wards in 1 Building

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It would be very helpful to see the calendars of all the units that meet in the building.
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