Can youth secretaries record attendance in Member Tools?

[russellhltn]

This was rolled out in my ward and adults looked dumb in front of kids when the adults found out the kids didn't have access.

As if the kids needed any help from the church to do that.

The underlying problem there is the thinking "because I can do it, you can do it". When dealing with the church systems, that will frequently backfire. Leaders just don't realize they have special access and not even other leaders may have the same ability.

I've watched things like that happen time and again. The Bishop creates some magical calling they think will 'help' but the leader they've called has no way to do that calling ... because it's a non-standard calling that you can't give it access for

Yet more faulty thinking by leadership. I wish I knew the answer to getting that though to them.

but youth that must track things with a piece of paper, since it's a piece of paper now they need a pen, how many adults now carry around a pen/pencil vs 10 years ago vs 20 years ago

Inconvenient, yes. But before that it was all paper and still needed to be done. The failure to prepare sounds like a teachable moment and a good life lesson.

So I'm not buying into that line of thinking while still acknowledging the frustration that comes from the broken promise of being able to do it on-line. Oddly, it seems a number of units are not adopting Gospel Living because not all the kids have capable phones. I have to wonder what would happen if was all on-line and the secretary didn't have a phone.

[BrianEdwards]

Oddly, it seems a number of units are not adopting Gospel Living because not all the kids have capable phones

This is our local philosophy, where we see if new functionality is applicable to us, and if not, we simply continue as before (as long as that's approved). In a weird way, it helps us to almost "forget" that Gospel Living is out there, since if we were to try and make it work for us, we'd likely produce frustration and distract ourselves and our time from other things.
We definitely do need to be careful not to completely disregard new things like online attendance, since often if we spend a bit of time we can find a good way to take advantage of at least some, if not all, of what's new. It seems like it's always a case of identifying what's most important to your local unit/organization, and then accepting the benefits/challenges the Church systems provide. And speaking up via Feedback is always encouraged.

[mherbst]

I have another question along these lines. We have called one Adult Advisor and several Adult Specialists in each of our YW and YM classes. In training these individuals, we have given specific YM/YW specialists the responsibility to assist the youth quorum and class secretaries to taking roll, helping with communication, and also keeping a history. Sounds like the youth don't have a way to do this electronically (at the moment), but also if your calling is a "specialist" these adult leaders are also not able to access attendance rolls nor add events in the planning calendars. I am a member of our ward bishopric, and we are unclear if this is some sort of permissions we need to set up? If so, can someone provide direction/comments on how to do this? Thanks very much for your help!

[russellhltn]

I am a member of our ward bishopric, and we are unclear if this is some sort of permissions we need to set up?

No. There is nothing you can do about it. Either they have it as part of their calling, or they don't.

You'll have to conform your plans with what LCR allows.