MLS Access Still Needed for Computer Replacement?

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johnsonjeric
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MLS Access Still Needed for Computer Replacement?

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I have some computers to replace and a new branch to setup on one of the new computers. The ward has a new clerk and bishopric and none of them know an MLS password since they never use MLS. Do we still need to connect to MLS to reset the security token or can we just ignore MLS since it is no longer used?

If I need to gain access to MLS, does anyone know how to recover a password?

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johnsonjeric wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:17 pm Do we still need to connect to MLS to reset the security token or can we just ignore MLS since it is no longer used?
Some wards and branches have not used MLS in over a year. It seems from other posts here at the Forum that MLS will no longer connect to the Church servers.

Based on that, I would not install MLS on the new computers.

Just to be certain, as the STS you might wish to call the Global Services Department and see if they concur, since I have not seen anything official on the demise of MLS.

The next time I have a computer to replace in my stake, I plan to make the same phone call if there have been no additional instructions from Church headquarters. Perhaps if enough of us call, they might put out something official. If you call, it would be kind of you to let us know what the GSD says.
johnsonjeric wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:17 pm If I need to gain access to MLS, does anyone know how to recover a password?
The Global Services Department use to give a one-time password to the bishop under these circumstances.
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lajackson wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 9:19 pm The next time I have a computer to replace in my stake, I plan to make the same phone call if there have been no additional instructions from Church headquarters. Perhaps if enough of us call, they might put out something official. If you call, it would be kind of you to let us know what the GSD says.
I'll definitely call and check with them and post back what I find. Thanks!
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johnsonjeric wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:17 pm I have some computers to replace and a new branch to setup on one of the new computers. The ward has a new clerk and bishopric and none of them know an MLS password since they never use MLS. Do we still need to connect to MLS to reset the security token or can we just ignore MLS since it is no longer used?

If I need to gain access to MLS, does anyone know how to recover a password?

Thanks,
MLS, in my ward, is still functional. To ensure it is still working, I run it once or twice a month to keep it up to date. Last evening was the latest time I successfully did this. Whilst MLS is largely redundant it could be useful when LCR is unavailable for tithing donations, especially on a Sunday, although these days there is a bit more flexibility about recording donations in the event of an LCR outage!

I personally think this decision, whether to install MLS, should be made by the Bishop and/or the Stake President.

Stating the obvious, if the MLS installation is for a brand new ward/branch, then they will be able to create their own passwords.
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Biggles wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 12:41 am Stating the obvious, if the MLS installation is for a brand new ward/branch, then they will be able to create their own passwords.
If it is for a new ward/branch they won't be able to get the members in the unit when they try to sync with CHQ. I'm not even sure if it will work correctly without the membership sync part working.
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I installed a new clerk PC last Friday. The provisioning tool installed MLS for me. On Sunday, I asked the finance clerk to start MLS, restore the latest MLS backup file, and do a send/receive.

The send/receive popped up an error message I have never seen before -- something about please contact your stake clerk for details. However, it appeared to work as far as I could see. I think another message said MLS had requested a finance download.

That's as far as we got. I told the clerk to make another MLS backup and exit. But we may never use MLS again. We'll see what happens next time we try to use it.
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lajackson wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 9:19 pm If you call, it would be kind of you to let us know what the GSD says.
Talked with the GSD today. The official answer is if your unit is in the USA, MLS is not longer needed for any reason and can be ignored on new computer installs. Thanks everyone for your input!
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johnsonjeric wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 2:16 pm Talked with the GSD today. The official answer is if your unit is in the USA, MLS is not longer needed for any reason and can be ignored on new computer installs. Thanks everyone for your input!
Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like someone at CHQ needs to greatly simplify the provisioning tool.
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