CDOL - list of callings visible

[russellhltn]

I know the are trying to put enough in LCR to not require local leaders to need CDOL but I don't think it's there yet.

That could be a problem. There's a bishop in my stake who has their email set to either "Leadership Only" or "Ward". I can't see it in the directory. As a STS, I'm not considered "a leader". The only way I can find his email is to go to CDOL. Yet I have a legitimate need to contact him about his ward's computer, internet, and stake conference streaming arrangements.

Likewise, I need visibility to ward TS as far as contact information.

if they want to use LCR, that's fine, but then I need access to it.

[amigodopovo]

It still hasn't been recorded by our Area Seventy. It's a Council-wide calling that didn't exist in our Council before I was called and set apart by our Area Seventy (after being released from my previous calling!). I was only sustained in our local ward, so the only way for others to find out is through word-of-mouth. I expect it wasn't straightforward to figure out how to get our calling into whatever the correct system might be, and then it probably fell off the radar. Definitely more of a niche situation than a Stake Communication Specialist, which is why I'm not surprised it's a bit more challenging to figure out.

Ah, custom positions aren't supported outside of ward/branch/stake/district so that might be why the trouble recording it. Maybe have them have the stake clerks record it in each stake. That would have the side effect of giving you the access you want to those units.

I'm a stake clerk dealing with something similar. A couple from our stake has been called as missionaries to support regional YSA activities, institute and the like. Ideally would have access to CDOL for outreach to bishops, stake presidencies. Regarding your idea of recording the calling in each stake. Wouldn't that first require that one unit in each stake create an out-of-unit record for that member? Or can the stake create an out-of-unit record for stake callings only?

[BrianEdwards]

I'm a stake clerk dealing with something similar. A couple from our stake has been called as missionaries to support regional YSA activities, institute and the like. Ideally would have access to CDOL for outreach to bishops, stake presidencies. Regarding your idea of recording the calling in each stake. Wouldn't that first require that one unit in each stake create an out-of-unit record for that member? Or can the stake create an out-of-unit record for stake callings only?

I believe that CDOL does not really deal with out-of-unit records in the normal sense. When I had a leadership calling with CDOL access, I could use CDOL and search worldwide for leadership information. Granted, what I could see was determined based on my calling, but I could search for stake and ward leaders as needed.

The suggestion of using out-of-unit records would essentially bypass any CDOL considerations. I don't believe out-of-unit records can be created at the stake level, so one drawback of this approach is that each stake would have to determine which ward would be the owner for the out-of-unit membership record. And then anyone in that ward (or even stake) would see this random membership record and possibly be confused, since it wouldn't correspond to the typical situation where the out-of-unit member has a local calling that members are aware of. I'm not personally aware of anyone having "out-of-unit membership records" recorded in multiple stakes, it always seems like they just have their home ward record and then one out-of-unit record in a single other unit (but what do I know ). But does seem like as long as this was approved by the appropriate leaders, it would work.

I wouldn't be surprised if "Church HQ" had the ability to tag certain members with certain additional directory access permissions, without requiring the creation of out-of-unit membership records. But as mentioned, I haven't heard of any type of policy or guidelines for multi-stake callings. I'm hoping perhaps we get somebody to chime in with a personal success story...

[russellhltn]

I don't believe out-of-unit records can be created at the stake level,

I'm not sure about now, but in the past I think the stake could add someone who is out-of-stake to a calling without having to add them as an out-of-unit member. It may have involved using their MRN when adding the user instead of using the search.

[amigodopovo]

Thanks! I see it now as possible. It's up to the stake presidency how they want to manage but glad there is a way.

[BrianEdwards]

[NOTE: new thread started to avoid forking this thread further ]

In the interest in keeping this discussion focused on the O.P., I started a new thread here:
Multi-stake calling and directory access
so that this conversation can remain centered on CDOL-specific items (as per the O.P).

There's a bit of movement regarding the multi-stake topic, so I'll be updating that thread likely soon (and possibly others will also contribute as appropriate).