Page numbers for new hymns

[lajackson]

A wonderful file, thanks. Here are some hints for those updating books printed from the previous version of the file.

Print pages 35 and 57 of the new file. This will give you page 2 of hymn 1018 and will give you hymn 1201 on separate pages, instead of back to back as they are in the last version of the file.

Print pages 37 through 56 back to back.
Print pages 65 through 67 back to back.
This will give you the 15 new hymns and songs released yesterday.

Thanks again for the file. This has been a great blessing for our members, as we are regularly singing these new hymns in our sacrament meetings.

[savannalake]

You are amazing! Thank you!

[carol5415]

Will you create a file for the new hymns 2025 ( 15 +9) with offset for binding in a folder?
Your file for the original new hymns was most helpful!!!

Thank you,
Carol Smith

[ams5]

Hi,

Thank you for posting the pdf English new hymns with page numbers WilliamJackson. We are trying to print copies for our ward. I am not sure why when I download the whole pdf file of hymns from the church website that it doesn't convert the page numbers. The page numbers show up as dots.

We also have a Spanish ward in our building so we are trying to print both English and Spanish versions. Does WilliamJackson have a way to do the page numbers for the Spanish hymns so that they are numbers instead of dots? A file that we can save and download?

Thanks

Amy

[lajackson]

Earlier in this topic williamjackson posted a link to the program he wrote that generates the new hymn file. I have looked at the code and believe it would be very labor intensive to make some of the changes requested here.

https://github.com/williamjacksn/hymns

Also earlier there is already a file with adjusted margins for offset printing. See this post. Perhaps that file will be updated soon.

And a suggestion through Feedback may trigger an effort at the Church to fix the page numbers in every language, which would be helpful in many ways for a lot of folks.

[lajackson]

The Forum Code of Conduct does not allow the posting of copyrighted material without permission. After some discussion, it has been determined that the actual PDF hymn files in this topic should not be posted without additional permission. Although most of the new hymns carry Church copyright (IRI), a few of them do not. Out of an abundance of caution these files are being removed.

Acknowledging that these files are helpful in furthering the work of the Church, permission will be sought next week to return the latest file to the Forum.

You will still see the link to the program written by williamjackson which can be run by those able to use Python.

[lajackson]

We also have a Spanish ward in our building so we are trying to print both English and Spanish versions.

williamjackson has updated his program to support printing PDFs of the new hymns in Spanish. The update allows for printing in either English or Spanish, and allows for the selection of regular letter-sized paper (8-1/2 x 11) or A4 paper.

https://github.com/williamjacksn/hymns

You will need to find someone who is able to run Python code. Ask around. There will be someone in your area willing and able to do it.

Kudos to williamjackson for his willingness to share his talents and make this capability available.

[lajackson]

The Forum has received permission to allow the posting of the new hymns, including files that combine them into one PDF file. The files may not include the Church logo and may not be sold. They must be freely available and intended for individual, noncommercial home and Church use.

Please note that there is a Download link near the top of the Church hymn page that also will download all of the new hymns with page numbers as a single PDF file. That file includes page numbers, but the file is not formatted in a way that printing it double-sided will keep a two-page hymn in view on the left and right sides of a booklet.

The two attached files include all of the new hymns with page numbers and page spacing so that all of a hymn may be viewed at one time when the file is printed double-sided. The English-language file has been posted here before, but no longer has the Church logo on the cover page. The Spanish-language file is new. Both of the attached files were generated using the Python program written by williamjackson and his work is greatly appreciated. A link to that program is included in earlier posts.

[russellhltn]

Note that Acrobat Reader has a "Booklet" function in the print dialog that can help format the pages for making a booklet. Still, I found I had to fold pages individually to get a nice flat fold and a paper cutter on the final product to get all the page edges to match.

If the intention is to print them out and stick them in the hymnbooks, I'd take the advice of Luke 14:28 - calculate the cost before starting the work.

I get the sense the hymns will be added to about once a quarter. There is only 12-13 Sundays in a quarter and the current file has 31 regular hymns. Multiply that by the number of hymnbooks in the chapel and it starts to add up.

[lajackson]

If the intention is to print them out and stick them in the hymnbooks, I'd take the advice of Luke 14:28 - calculate the cost before starting the work.

Good advice.

We print them at regular letter size and keep them in separate three-prong folders, similar to what the ward choir often uses. And when a new batch comes out, we just print the new pages and add them to each folder.

But it is a manually intensive process. I am already looking forward to abandoning it late next year when the new hymnbook is scheduled to arrive.