Combining YW Classes

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Combining YW Classes

Postby EthanBratt » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:56 pm

Our bishopric recently decided to combine the Laurels and Mia Maids due to low numbers. They will be calling one presidency for the combined group. This is something allowable in the handbook.

I'm trying to figure out how in MLS to properly record the callings. It doesn't seem possible at least from what I can figure out. Does anyone have any insight?

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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby drepouille » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:16 am

My ward has had fewer than ten young women for many years, so my ward leaders decided to create three custom callings:
    Young Women's Class President
    Young Women's Class First Counselor
    Young Women's Class Second Counselor
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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby russellhltn » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:18 am

The problem with custom callings is that they confer no keys to LCR, such as personal progress.
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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby eblood66 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:33 am

As far as I know, youth leaders (the youth themselves as opposed to the adult YW presidency and advisors) do not get any rights in any online system so that shouldn't currently be an issue.

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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby EthanBratt » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:11 pm

drepouille wrote:My ward has had fewer than ten young women for many years, so my ward leaders decided to create three custom callings:
    Young Women's Class President
    Young Women's Class First Counselor
    Young Women's Class Second Counselor


So do you just create those callings generally in the YW organization? What are did you put them under in the YW organization since you can't put them under the classes?

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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby drepouille » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:27 pm

I don't think it matters, since no custom callings appear on your Officers Sustained report. We just added them to the Young Women Presidency, so they appear right under the YW Secretary. But we could have stuck them under the YW Advisers or anywhere else in the YW organization.
The tricky part is sustaining them during your ward conference. You just need to coordinate with the high council on that.
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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby EthanBratt » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:21 am

That makes sense. Thank you!

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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby johnshaw » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:03 am

Don't do it, combine the class for logistics purposes but call presidents and secretaries for both groups, think of how you'd do the young men, the young men would NEVER be combined like that without having Presidents called....
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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby lajackson » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:16 pm

johnshaw wrote:Don't do it, combine the class for logistics purposes but call presidents and secretaries for both groups, think of how you'd do the young men, the young men would NEVER be combined like that without having Presidents called....

You are correct with regard to the Young Men. Aaronic Priesthood quorum presidencies are never combined. But Handbook 2, 17.2.3 allows for the combining of Young Women age-groups and allows for one presidency to be called in a ward or branch with few young women.

It is not a requirement, and my personal preference would be to keep separate YW class presidencies, if possible, even if the classes are meeting together for activities and Sunday instruction. But the option is there for the bishopric to consider and it is authorized by the Handbook.

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Re: Combining YW Classes

Postby johnshaw » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:14 pm

Agreed, but many decisions are made and never questioned, never pushed back on. My personality is such that I'm always willing to put in my 2 cents... OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER Bishoprics and Stake Presidencies modified their original thinking just be discussing something another 5 more minutes, and only because someone said, what about this, etc...
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