Lehi and Liahona SSID, mutually exclusive?

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Lehi and Liahona SSID, mutually exclusive?

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Can you run both the Lehi and Liahona SSD at the same time, or are they mutually exclusive?

Just getting started with this Stake TS calling and feeling a bit lost in the sauce. I understand networking, VLANs, and have a fair working knowledge of the hardware. Furthermore, my company uses Meraki switches throughout, so I even have some gurus that can guide me if I really need to dig deep.

That being said, is there a good guide to modifying the network at the stake level? I'm going through the different "My Calling" lessons and pages, so I'll see how much I can glean from that. Really just need to find a condensed site to use for answering my questions and getting going with the network at a stake level.
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jeffjohnson wrote:Can you run both the Lehi and Liahona SSD at the same time, or are they mutually exclusive?
You can run them at the same time, but there's not much to be gained from that.

The main purpose of Lehi is to allow essential users to still have WiFi when you need to disable Liahona to preserve bandwidth - such as when webcasting. Even then, you'll need to work with them to make sure they don't decide to show a video at a bad time.

You'll find your control over the network is limited. Your tools is what the Technology Manager website (TM) allows - which is pretty simplified.
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jeffjohnson wrote:Can you run both the Lehi and Liahona SSD at the same time, or are they mutually exclusive?
. . . is there a good guide to modifying the network at the stake level?
They are two SSIDs on the same network, using the same bandwidth. As russellhltn said, you can disable Liahona for a webcast, for example, and use Lehi to do other things at the same time. But Lehi is using the same bandwidth. Liahona just cuts out the general membership.

You will find that your network modification choices are limited to turning the SSIDs on and off, changing the Lehi password every 90 days, and choosing one of three levels of security that help restrict bandwidth usage by the members just a little bit. I have found the latter not to be very useful if you have a generally fair amount of bandwidth to begin with.
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Actually, it's super helpful for us.

We have four six TVs mounted in different rooms for Seminary and Primary use and they cannot get on the Liahona network because they cannot accept the Terms and Conditions. But I can set up the Lehi SSID and put them on that! :)
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jeffjohnson wrote:We have four six TVs mounted in different rooms for Seminary and Primary use and they cannot get on the Liahona network because they cannot accept the Terms and Conditions. But I can set up the Lehi SSID and put them on that! :)
You should be able to add them to the "nosplash" policy on Liahona. That is, as long as they used the network's DNS and not their own.

if they've fixed the bug with Lehi, you'll have to change the password on all the TVs every 90 days.

Looking in TM today, it does seem they've made a change in that area.
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russellhltn wrote:
jeffjohnson wrote:We have four six TVs mounted in different rooms for Seminary and Primary use and they cannot get on the Liahona network because they cannot accept the Terms and Conditions. But I can set up the Lehi SSID and put them on that! :)
You should be able to add them to the "nosplash" policy on Liahona. That is, as long as they used the network's DNS and not their own.
Ok, that's even better. I'll see if I can figure that out and roll with that :)
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Note that as long as the TV doesn't have to go out to the internet (for example, it only connects to a local server), it doesn't need to deal with the splash. The whole splash thing is only for going "out".
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