Bishopric counselor without endowment

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simone.linzitto
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Bishopric counselor without endowment

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Can a man call as a bishopric counselor without have his endowment?
He must call as and High Priest without the endowment.
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Re: Bishopric counselor without endowment

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I think this would be an unusual situation, but I believe it would be possible.
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Re: Bishopric counselor without endowment

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In agree with you but how can he do the inteviews for the temple and read the part about the endowment of he couldn't know that part?
How can he partecipate in the discilinary councils?
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Re: Bishopric counselor without endowment

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simone.linzitto wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:49 pm In agree with you but how can he do the inteviews for the temple and read the part about the endowment of he couldn't know that part?
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Do you mean the paragraph or two that should be read after completing the questions?

A quick search on the Church website: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/sea ... &facet=all
found this PDF document: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... letter.pdf Are the highlighted two paragraphs near the end of the document what you are asking about? If so, it appears to be public.
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Re: Bishopric counselor without endowment

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simone.linzitto wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 2:49 pm In agree with you but how can he do the inteviews for the temple and read the part about the endowment of he couldn't know that part?
How can he partecipate in the discilinary councils?
There are certain things learned in the temple that are not to be discussed outside of the temple. But everything in the temple recommend questions can be asked and answered, including the statement about wearing the garment that should be included in the interview. In fact, the covenants made in the temple are discussed in the General Handbook (27.2) that is available online to all the world. That same paragraph in the Handbook also includes a discussion of the temple garment.

Even though he has not been to the temple himself, the counselor will be able to conduct temple recommend interviews. The temple recommend questions and the statement to be read are available to the public, as rmrichesjr has said.

And there is nothing about a membership council that would ever require the divulging of confidential information that is only to be discussed in the temple. The counselor will be able to fully participate in membership councils.
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Re: Bishopric counselor without endowment

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One consideration might be to ensure that the brother is a temple recommend holder. I imagine the brother is worthy, but that distance (or health) is the factor that would prevent the brother from receiving his endowment prior to being ordained a Hight Priest and called as a Bishopric Counselor. If he is interviewed himself for a temple recommend, and then holds an active recommend, that might help him feel more comfortable then performing the interviews for other members.

This does raise a question for me: is a Bishop required to be endowed? Somebody might point out something obvious, but it seems the Handbook only requires that the Bishop be a married High Priest. And in certain parts of the world where wards exist, temple attendance might still be something requiring a large amount of planning and sacrifice. A rare case, but maybe permitted?
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Re: Bishopric counselor without endowment

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Thank you all for your answer, I know that there Is nothing about a membership council that would ever require the divulging of confidential information, but sometime we need to remove some privilage even about their alleance.

It's inusuale but it's possible. Thank you
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Re: Bishopric counselor without endowment

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BrianEdwards wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:11 pm This does raise a question for me: is a Bishop required to be endowed?
No.

The Church used to fly bishops to general conference one time after they were called. One of the reasons they did this was so that the new bishop could receive his temple ordinances if that had not already happened. I know that this was still happening in the 1980s.

Since then enough temples have been built close enough to the members that, for the most part, there is no longer a need to do this.

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