General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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petepaulos wrote: 1. Would it be better to offer a separate subtitle file, or embed the caption file in the video download?
-example of embedded captions in video download
http://media2.ldscdn.org/assets/scriptu ... nload=true

2. For a separate subtitle file, which file format is preferred? (.XML, .SRT, .VTT, etc)

3. For accessibility to these separate subtitle files, is adding them to "downloads" in the Media library a good location? See picture for example
http://media.ldscdn.org/thumbnails/subt ... xample.jpg
This location is just an example, and the download could appear in a different location.

User "paulw" brought to my attention this forum post and I'd like to get things rolling quickly. A bit of a warning, adding a separate subtitle file to all our media would take just a couple weeks, however embedding caption files into the video downloads for all our media may take several years.

We're here to serve our users as best as we can, and your feedback will really help get things moving!
-Pete
Hi Pete, just chiming in:

1) If there is a way to embed them with good compatibility for all the media library videos then that would be ideal. So have embedded subtitles for all the media library files then just have separate subtitle files for general conference sessions, broadcasts and training videos.

2) For the general conference/broadcast/training videos - XML and SUB or SRT would be great. XML allows for easy conversion into other formats, and SUB/SRT tend to work well with media players like VLC etc.

3) Only a small proportion of users will be using them so I don't think they need to be displayed prominently (ie. on the General Conference page on LDS.org) but just somewhere either in the Media Library or somewhere on LDS.org where those who need them can find them would be terrific.

-Justin
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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Following-up to see if there are any further developments on offline mp4 file closed captioning options.
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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niederhausern wrote:Following-up to see if there are any further developments on offline mp4 file closed captioning options.
Unfortunately there haven't been any official developments that have been announced. But if you do a Google search for "LDS General Conference Subtitles" some unofficial guides and resources have been posted that may be of help.
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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Usually closed captions/subtitles are added to the "Watch" (Brightcove viewer) feature on LDS.org for sessions by now but they don't seem to be there. Previously there were subtitles for the Women's Session on the viewer, and we were able to rip them from:
https://media.ldscdn.org/dfxp/general-c ... ession.xml
for showing at our stake meeting. But now they have disappeared too. Why would subtitles be uploaded for the first session then removed? I tried to submit Feedback through the LDS.org website but submission results in a "Internal Server Error". This whole subtitle situation is getting quite old and frustrating.
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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jcrosbie wrote:Usually closed captions/subtitles are added to the "Watch" (Brightcove viewer) feature on LDS.org for sessions by now but they don't seem to be there.
It seems to be there for the individual talks, just not for the whole session.

That seems to be true of the YouTube videos as well.
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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As an update to this, the church now uses Web Video Text Tracks (WebVTT)/.vtt files for subtitles on their live players. I have sniffed out the URLS for these files and they're listed below for the April 2018 conference. Download and rename them to the same name as the video file, and also place them in the same directory then when you play the video in VLC you will get offline subtitles:

https://media.ldscdn.org/webvtt/general ... on-eng.vtt
https://media.ldscdn.org/webvtt/general ... on-eng.vtt
https://media.ldscdn.org/webvtt/general ... on-eng.vtt
https://media.ldscdn.org/webvtt/general ... on-eng.vtt
https://media.ldscdn.org/webvtt/general ... on-eng.vtt
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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i am trying to access the subtitles for the new ministering training videos so that we can download them and show them without streaming. Anyone who could help?
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conbward wrote:i am trying to access the subtitles for the new ministering training videos so that we can download them and show them without streaming. Anyone who could help?
I'm not able to access subtitles even viewing on the web page. I can get to the settings, but I can't turn them on. I'm not sure if there are any captions.
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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For those interested, I was able to sniff out the .vtt subtitle file locations for conference at the following addresses:

Sat AM
https://ldshds-a.akamaihd.net/pd/119719 ... b2636e.vtt
Sat PM
https://ldshds-a.akamaihd.net/pd/119719 ... c7b73a.vtt
Women's Session
https://ldshds-a.akamaihd.net/pd/119719 ... b8eabc.vtt
Sun AM
https://ldshds-a.akamaihd.net/pd/119719 ... fe68aa.vtt
Sun PM
https://ldshds-a.akamaihd.net/pd/119719 ... b08514.vtt

Just rename the file to match your .mp4 video file for that session, place in the same directory and then play the video file with VLC and it should play with subtitles.
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Re: General conference video on media/USB players with subtitles/closed captions

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Is there any update on the subtitles/closed captioning being updated for April 2019 General Conference videos on the browser/Brightcove player on the church website? Congregations around the world will begin watching conference tomorrow, and I'm sure like our stake - will have many hearing impaired people that require subtitles. They usually have gone up within a few days for previous conferences?
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