Looking for stories of General Authority Use of LDS Apps

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lmcguire
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Re: Looking for stories of General Authority Use of LDS Apps

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eldermurray wrote:I once volunteered to read a scripture in Sunday school and afterward the teacher told me that they'd prefer I not volunteer to read unless I'm going to read from "the scriptures." (the paper ones)

Also a year ago when I was in the Stake YM presidency, we were asked to use our paper scriptures around the young men because we needed to "set an example" for them. Because apparently if a young man catches me reading the scriptures on a tablet, that I'm not being a good example?
:shock: I would request private time with that teacher to demonstrate that the Gospel Library *is* the scriptures - and try to do that in a non-confrontational way; and encourage them to read along with me, to see that what I'm reading when I volunteer matches their paper. And I would NOT stop volunteering. I would ask the YM presidency to explain in detail what their concerns were. I wouldn't go against their wishes, but I would request further understanding. (I imagine they're worried the youth would think *you* were gaming or whatever; if that's the case, it's easy to _show_ the youth you're not...)

Here follow some thoughts / ideas.

When I started teaching youth Sunday School, almost 2 years ago, no one gave me instruction one way or the other about paper vs. electronic, but all the youth in my class were bringing paper and I assumed they'd been told not to use their phones. I discussed this with my brother who was already teaching a youth class. Not only did he use electronic as teacher (and his students if they wanted), but he got all their cell numbers and would send them humorous reminders throughout the week to study the lesson and carry out invitations to act on what they'd discussed the previous Sunday. We both felt that unless they're taught to use electronic devices for spiritual purposes, they'll think of the device as for everything else, which won't help them avoid its less-worthy uses. (I mean, if your device screen has all these LDS app icons all over it, isn't that going to make you think twice about using it for less-worthy activities - at least until you're too far gone to care?)

So I used one of our lessons for teaching the youth how to use their electronic devices in class (including pulling up the lesson and following links to the material we were going to read). We then told the students they could use their devices or paper, as they wished. Some use only electronic, some prefer paper most of the time, some alternate (why, I don't know or care). Two have had troubles not using their devices for games - the other teacher and I (and one of their peers - of his own volition) have found ways to encourage using the Gospel Library instead.

In late 2014 when I saw the recommendation that people use electronic resources, but that we had never had training (and needed it), I discussed this with the bishop. He discussed it with the Ward Council and asked me to teach a class (after hours on a Sunday evening). Turn-out was huge (we hyped it, and clearly people *wanted* to know how to make the most of the Gospel Library). We spent about 1.5 hours and the people who spoke to me after said they learned a lot from it. Perhaps you should discuss this with your bishop - his endorsement via official ward activity might dispel the false ideas of others (unless he agrees with them, in which case, I recommend prayer).

FWIW,

Liz
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Something else to consider: at one point, I seem to remember counsel to study the scriptures, and not just read them. That is, to pick a topic and then read the passages about it. Using GL and starting with the Topical Guide, this becomes a snap.
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eldermurray wrote:I once volunteered to read a scripture in Sunday school and afterward the teacher told me that they'd prefer I not volunteer to read unless I'm going to read from "the scriptures." (the paper ones)
To which, when asked the same question, I responded, "Oh, sorry. Did it get it wrong?" "No." "Then just pretend I quoted it from memory."

The real fun is when you are asked to read the heading from a section of the Doctrine and Covenants that has changed.
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President Nelson uses his iPhone extensively. He used it back in 2014 at the University of Minnesota as a guest lecturer. He pulled out his iPhone to read from Leviticus. Judging by the speed that he found the scripture, he uses his iPhone for the Scriptures quite frequently.

The following is a link to his alumnus speech. The part I referenced is at (24:38-27:4).

http://mediamill.cla.umn.edu/mediamill/ ... /999224222
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lajackson wrote:
eldermurray wrote:I once volunteered to read a scripture in Sunday school and afterward the teacher told me that they'd prefer I not volunteer to read unless I'm going to read from "the scriptures." (the paper ones)
To which, when asked the same question, I responded, "Oh, sorry. Did it get it wrong?" "No." "Then just pretend I quoted it from memory."
Really? You've been told not to read the scriptures off an electronic device, too? Just how widespread is this problem? I might understand it if you lived in "Timbuk-we-just-got-indoor-plumbing", but in the so-called first world?

Meanwhile, on a happier note, while teaching Gospel Doctrine one Sunday 2+ years ago (using my Android tablet), I asked someone to read a scripture and as I was navigating to the same scripture to follow along, my tablet crashed, to which I said something like "Oh no, my scriptures just rebooted" - which got a lot of laughs (and not just in class - apparently the story was worth retelling as a friend told me later... :mrgreen: ).

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Here's another link: https://www.lds.org/broadcasts/article/ ... d?lang=eng

Got enough yet :-)

Liz

PS: My brother says that it would indeed be a sin if you were using an iOS or Windows device, but Android is perfectly OK. :ugeek:
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lmcguire wrote:Really? You've been told not to read the scriptures off an electronic device, too? Just how widespread is this problem? I might understand it if you lived in "Timbuk-we-just-got-indoor-plumbing", but in the so-called first world?
It was quite a while ago.

I think it's a generational thing. In my growing up years great emphasis was placed on getting us youngsters to bring our scriptures to Church with us. No that we cracked them open very often, but just having them with us was considered progress by our leaders.

And all of a sudden, that someone without their thump thump scriptures was able to correctly read unannounced passages caused some measure of awe and consternation from an adult who still knows only a land line for telephone service.

In my case, the teacher was afraid I would not "get it right" and she would have to embarrass me with a correction in front of the class. I reassured her that it was perfectly fine to say so if I made a mistake, that I wanted to read the scriptures correctly, as well. After a few months she warmed up to it, but I could tell she was always a little leery of it, at least until she realized she sometimes had to correct those who read from their papyrus, er, paper, as well.
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lajackson wrote:It was quite a while ago.
Are we talking Palm Pilot era?
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We all know how frequently teacher's manuals are lost in the transition between teachers. Are clerks ordering new teachers manuals these days?
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Re: Looking for stories of General Authority Use of LDS Apps

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lajackson wrote:I think it's a generational thing. In my growing up years great emphasis was placed on getting us youngsters to bring our scriptures to Church with us.
Same emphasis for me when I was a teen, but my dad's in his 70s and uses a smartphone and tablet for at least some of this stuff, so it's clearly more than just generational - I'm thinking regional and individual too... I get generational explaining not wanting to _use_ the newfangled doohickey; I don't get questioning its validity as if the world weren't still spinning - I mean anyone still alive in the western world has seen massive amounts of technological change. I suppose something one (a.k.a. me, not them - hmm, or them too, maybe) hasn't experienced or imagined personally is just shocking. :-)

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