How to respond to The Change in FHAR

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brenmar
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How to respond to The Change in FHAR

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There is another topic here entitled "Change in Family Activity Report?", which includes some good detail and commentary on the change.

What I'm searching for is enough information so that I can be useful in my calling as Temple and Family History Leader.

Here is the official word on the change:
A change was recently made to the Family History Activity Report (FHAR).

A brief note approved by Elder Kevin S. Hamilton of the Seventy describes this change:

“The “Family History Activity Report” found in Leader and Clerk Resources (LCR) has been adjusted to represent only the Family Trees of members who have a FamilySearch account. This change will result in a lower number of “First Four Generation Trees” reported. This adjustment should give leaders more accurate information about member family history activity in their unit.”

The change has already been implemented from an experience perspective. The workaround that has been used to maintain consistent reporting will be retired. The change will provide more accurate reporting and better data governance.

If you have questions about this change or need additional information, please contact your local Priesthood leaders.
My understanding was that the original metric was "the current percentage of first four generation ancestors in FamilySearch Family Tree for members of the unit" and that now the metric "has been adjusted to represent only the Family Trees of members who have a FamilySearch account." Since "this change will result in a lower number of “First Four Generation Trees” reported" (my unit dropped nearly 50%), I conclude that there are indeed members with four generation trees but without a FamilySearch account.

So these questions come to mind, and I would like to understand how to answer them as a local Priesthood leader.

Can we identify those members whose trees have now been excluded from the metric?

If such a member simply signs up for a FamilySearch account, will that member then be included in the new metric?
If not, what must they do to be included?

How does this all fit with the ability to sign into FamilySearch using one's Church Account? Is a Church Account and a FamilySearch account the same as far as this metric is concerned, or do they specifically need a FamilySearch account? And if it is the latter, then do they need to ignore the "Sign in with Church Account" option and sign in directly to FamilySearch?

Again, I'm interested not only in the details of the change, but in clear instruction regarding how to respond to the change as we seek to engage in this great work.

Many thanks,
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Re: How to respond to The Change in FHAR

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Here is my understanding (but I have no special knowledge so welcome correction from someone who knows for sure). I am also the Temple and Family History Leader in my ward (as well as the EQP).
brenmar wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:15 pmCan we identify those members whose trees have now been excluded from the metric?
No. We are not given that information at the ward level. The only way to find out is for members to self-report.
brenmar wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:15 pmIf such a member simply signs up for a FamilySearch account, will that member then be included in the new metric?
If not, what must they do to be included?
They need more than a FamilySearch account. They must have 4 generations in their tree after they get their FamilySearch account. The Temple and Family History Leader or Consultants can help the member add living ancestors and then search for (or add) deceased ancestors in FamilySearch to complete the metric.
brenmar wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:15 pmHow does this all fit with the ability to sign into FamilySearch using one's Church Account? Is a Church Account and a FamilySearch account the same as far as this metric is concerned, or do they specifically need a FamilySearch account? And if it is the latter, then do they need to ignore the "Sign in with Church Account" option and sign in directly to FamilySearch?
A member can have their church account credentials be the same as their FamilySearch account credentials, but unless they have 4 or more generations in their family tree they will not be counted as complete in the metric. The change stops counting 4 generations from their church membership information. The metric is a "FamilySearch Activity" metric, not a church membership metric so they don't get credit for just being a member of the church.
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Re: How to respond to The Change in FHAR

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brenmar wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:15 pmHow does this all fit with the ability to sign into FamilySearch using one's Church Account? Is a Church Account and a FamilySearch account the same as far as this metric is concerned, or do they specifically need a FamilySearch account? And if it is the latter, then do they need to ignore the "Sign in with Church Account" option and sign in directly to FamilySearch?
Once a member signs in to FamilySearch, they have a FamilySearch account. The important thing for FHAR statistics is that they sign in with their FamilySearch account that is connected to their Church membership record. If they use their Church Account credentials to sign in, then you can be certain that the FamilySearch account they are signed in with is the one linked to their Church membership record. If they use their FamilySearch account credentials, then make sure that they have the correct account. Some people have inadvertently created more than one FamilySearch account, but only one can be connected to their Church membership record.

Once they have signed in to a membership-linked FamilySearch account, they will contribute to the numerator of the 4-gen ancestor statistic (prior to that, they will be part of the numerator, as is every youth and adult in the ward, but they will contribute 0). They will then count for at least 1/15 (about 7%) because they count as one of the 15 4-generation ancestors. To count for more than that, they have to be connected to parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents. Some of that may be filled in automatically from their membership record and the records of their ancestors, or they may need to fill it in manually.
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aebrown wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:59 amIf they use their FamilySearch account credentials, then make sure that they have the correct account. Some people have inadvertently created more than one FamilySearch account, but only one can be connected to their Church membership record.
To verify that your FamilySearch account is connected to your Church membership record:
  1. Sign in to FamilySearch
  2. Click on your name in the upper right corner
  3. Choose Settings
  4. Click on the Account tab within Settings
  5. Scroll to the bottom to the subheading "Account"
  6. You will either see text that says "Member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" or a button that says "Add Church Record Number"
If your account is not connected to your Church record number, you might be tempted to add your Church record number. That might work, but if you have accidentally created another FamilySearch account that is already connected to your Church record number, you might get confused. It might work better to sign out, then use the password recovery option on the sign in page, using the Membership Record Number recovery method. That will reveal if you have another account already linked to your membership.
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Re: How to respond to The Change in FHAR

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davesudweeks wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:38 pm
brenmar wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:15 pmIf such a member simply signs up for a FamilySearch account, will that member then be included in the new metric? If not, what must they do to be included?
They need more than a FamilySearch account. They must have 4 generations in their tree after they get their FamilySearch account. The Temple and Family History Leader or Consultants can help the member add living ancestors and then search for (or add) deceased ancestors in FamilySearch to complete the metric.
They need only to have a FamilySearch account connected to their membership record number, and sign in. Then they will be counted in the numerator of the 4-gen ancestors metric. As I explained elsewhere, they will always count for 1 out of 15, but to count the full 15, they need to also have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, and 8 great-grandparents.
davesudweeks wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:38 pm
brenmar wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:15 pmHow does this all fit with the ability to sign into FamilySearch using one's Church Account? Is a Church Account and a FamilySearch account the same as far as this metric is concerned, or do they specifically need a FamilySearch account? And if it is the latter, then do they need to ignore the "Sign in with Church Account" option and sign in directly to FamilySearch?
A member can have their church account credentials be the same as their FamilySearch account credentials, but unless they have 4 or more generations in their family tree they will not be counted as complete in the metric. The change stops counting 4 generations from their church membership information. The metric is a "FamilySearch Activity" metric, not a church membership metric so they don't get credit for just being a member of the church.
The key is to have a FamilySearch account that is connected to their Church membership, and sign in to FamilySearch. What password they use is irrelevant. But as I explained above, you can get partial credit for anywhere from 1 to 15 out of the 15 possible 4-gen ancestors.

But you are correct that the change is that no one gets credit anymore just for being a member, with more credit for their ancestors being members. They only get credit if they sign in to FamilySearch.
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Thank you for the clarification. In addition to the Temple and Family History leader in our ward, I am also the EQP. We have stake training tomorrow evening and I have been asked to discuss our ward's Temple and Family History plan (I think we are the first ward in the stake to submit ours this year).
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And my thanks, too. Excellent information.
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