Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

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Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

Post by bsummie »

In the FAQ of the covenant path progress training (https://assets.churchofjesuschrist.org/ ... t_path.pdf) it mentions users will be able to add returning members to the covenant path progress tools early 2024.

Any idea when this will be available?

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Re: Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

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There may be somebody with awareness of details -- it's always worth asking, and is a good way to make that awareness more public. That said, it seems most times when the Church gives these type of target dates for release of functionality, it quite often slides or even disappears. And then sometimes (like with teachers being able to enter attendance), something many Forum members have assumed just wouldn't ever get done, suddenly is released! The Church is known for not providing functionality status or updated release dates for projects like this, but fingers-crossed somebody knows some details.
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Re: Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

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Agreed… posting here is the only way I thought to bring awareness ;)
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Re: Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

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The recently released update to the Handbook (31 May, from the Correlation Department) mentions this facility but it is still not available. I tried to enter a returning member through the Preach My Gospel app but as soon as I listed the person as a member the ability to add them to the Covenant Path Progress report was greyed out.
Surely this is an easy fix and given it is in the General Handbook a priority fix. It stifles the ability of the Ward Council to perform its role. Also it is not an access issue as I am a Ward Clerk and Full-time missionary.
BTW does anyone in a position to change things monitor this forum?
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Re: Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

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ctravm wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:26 pm The recently released update to the Handbook (31 May, from the Correlation Department) mentions this facility but it is still not available. I tried to enter a returning member through the Preach My Gospel app but as soon as I listed the person as a member the ability to add them to the Covenant Path Progress report was greyed out.
Surely this is an easy fix and given it is in the General Handbook a priority fix. It stifles the ability of the Ward Council to perform its role. Also it is not an access issue as I am a Ward Clerk and Full-time missionary.
I'm not familiar with the Preach My Gospel app, but my initial impression is that this would be for tracking non-members, since Ward Leaders don't use PMG for their work (they would use tools enabled via LCR). That said, Ward Councils have been able to successfully watch over returning members for years, prior to any technology provided by the Church (granted, tech can reduce overhead and better coordinate efforts).
ctravm wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:26 pm BTW does anyone in a position to change things monitor this forum?
The Tech Forum primarily serves as user-to-user discussion and self-help. There may be a few Church employees who randomly participate, but there is no process for any discussion here in the Forum, to be pushed into the Church's system. The way to provide that input is via the Feedback functionality available at the bottom of most Church webpages, and in Church apps. Be aware that most often no response is given, or perhaps an automated response, and we're not privy to any Church priorities or timelines beyond what the Church shares. Like you, we have found that the implementation of functionality sometimes lags the documentation (Handbook, Help FAQs, etc), but there's not much we can do beyond sending Feedback, and then working within the provided toolsets.
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Re: Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

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BrianEdwards wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:56 pm I'm not familiar with the Preach My Gospel app, but my initial impression is that this would be for tracking non-members, since Ward Leaders don't use PMG for their work (they would use tools enabled via LCR).
The Covenant Path Progress Report is primarily for tracking investigator and new member progress. Info is put in either LCR or PMG App (primarily the latter) and synced between the two.

The recent Handbook update and the Help Center page also say it's for returning members too, but missionaries can't add them like they do investigators. I don't have LCR access so I don't know if they can add it, but it sounds like it's on the Church's radar to implement (help center presentation says it will be added in 2024)
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Re: Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

Post by russellhltn »

Looking at the various links and announcements, it's unclear how returning members are added and who can do it.

23.6.6 says "The elders quorum and Relief Society presidents help the ward council create the plan. The ward mission leader also helps. The bishop reviews and approves it." It's possible that only the bishop can add a returning member.
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Re: Returning members added to Covenant Path Progress

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Two nights ago I was almost able to add myself as a returning member into my covenant path app. Here's what happened:

1) couldn't find any way to do so on the website.
2) on the app I was able to add a member. The system required that I toggle on that the member had consented to be included.
3) the member showed as "pending."

That's as far as I got. Not quite there, but close.

No invitation went to the member or anything.

UPDATE: I just tried it again. (This time on my wife's account). IT WORKED!!!!!!!!

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