Print a Report with MRNs?

[tonynocchi]

For fifth Sunday, our YM/YW are doing a combined Family History lesson and I have been asked to provide the MRNs for the 30+ youth expected to be in attendance. Is there a way to print a report that shows MRNs? I tried to create a custom report with just the youth but there is no field to display MRNs because that would obviously be too easy. Am I missing something? Is there a way to do this without having to look everyone up because the "Search" on the dashboard doesn't work for anyone in a leadership position in our ward so I have to go through the Member Directory and search there.

[russellhltn]

I have been asked to provide the MRNs for the 30+ youth expected to be in attendance. Is there a way to print a report that shows MRNs?

I don't think that's a good idea. If the church used Social Security Numbers, you wouldn't print a list with SSNs would you? They want it because MRNs are the key to resetting accounts, and you wouldn't want that getting into the wrong hands. While it's intent is for a good purpose, I'm not sure as the Family History staff is the right hands, particularly on a mass basis.

A better plan would be to have a leader that has access to MRNs at the event or on call. I'd look into the different ways it could be looked up. It might be available in Member Tools.

[tonynocchi]

I have been asked to provide the MRNs for the 30+ youth expected to be in attendance. Is there a way to print a report that shows MRNs?

I don't think that's a good idea. If the church used Social Security Numbers, you wouldn't print a list with SSNs would you? They want it because MRNs are the key to resetting accounts, and you wouldn't want that getting into the wrong hands. While it's intent is for a good purpose, I'm not sure as the Family History staff is the right hands, particularly on a mass basis.

A better plan would be to have a leader that has access to MRNs at the event or on call. I'd look into the different ways it could be looked up. It might be available in Member Tools.

The church let's me print out date of birth, birthplace, and maiden name, which is all PII/PPI and could have significantly worse impacts on someone's life than their MRN getting out there. There are other ways of protecting the information and the plan was not to give it to the Family History Staff but for me to sit in the class with them and provide MRNs as needed and I wanted to have the MRNs handy before class. If I have to look up the MRNs for even half the class while the class is going on, not only is it going to disrupt the class, all but the first few youth are going to be left behind in the lesson.

Because the "Search" feature on the LCR Dashboard is broke and the class will be happening at 1:30 PM EDT on Sunday, the chances of me looking up even one MRN every few minutes is low.

[garystroble]

I have been asked to provide the MRNs for the 30+ youth expected to be in attendance. Is there a way to print a report that shows MRNs?

I don't think that's a good idea. If the church used Social Security Numbers, you wouldn't print a list with SSNs would you? They want it because MRNs are the key to resetting accounts, and you wouldn't want that getting into the wrong hands. While it's intent is for a good purpose, I'm not sure as the Family History staff is the right hands, particularly on a mass basis.

A better plan would be to have a leader that has access to MRNs at the event or on call. I'd look into the different ways it could be looked up. It might be available in Member Tools.

The church let's me print out date of birth, birthplace, and maiden name, which is all PII/PPI and could have significantly worse impacts on someone's life than their MRN getting out there. There are other ways of protecting the information and the plan was not to give it to the Family History Staff but for me to sit in the class with them and provide MRNs as needed and I wanted to have the MRNs handy before class. If I have to look up the MRNs for even half the class while the class is going on, not only is it going to disrupt the class, all but the first few youth are going to be left behind in the lesson.

Because the "Search" feature on the LCR Dashboard is broke and the class will be happening at 1:30 PM EDT on Sunday, the chances of me looking up even one MRN every few minutes is low.

As a clerk you can also see MRN's on your member app for each individual youth, under membership information. For that matter, if the youth have the member app on their phone, they may be able to see their MRN right there. I know adults can see theirs in the app.

Another option is to print IOS's for the youth ahead of time, which would show their MRN, and they can then keep the IOS.

[tonynocchi]

I don't think that's a good idea. If the church used Social Security Numbers, you wouldn't print a list with SSNs would you? They want it because MRNs are the key to resetting accounts, and you wouldn't want that getting into the wrong hands. While it's intent is for a good purpose, I'm not sure as the Family History staff is the right hands, particularly on a mass basis.

A better plan would be to have a leader that has access to MRNs at the event or on call. I'd look into the different ways it could be looked up. It might be available in Member Tools.

The church let's me print out date of birth, birthplace, and maiden name, which is all PII/PPI and could have significantly worse impacts on someone's life than their MRN getting out there. There are other ways of protecting the information and the plan was not to give it to the Family History Staff but for me to sit in the class with them and provide MRNs as needed and I wanted to have the MRNs handy before class. If I have to look up the MRNs for even half the class while the class is going on, not only is it going to disrupt the class, all but the first few youth are going to be left behind in the lesson.

Because the "Search" feature on the LCR Dashboard is broke and the class will be happening at 1:30 PM EDT on Sunday, the chances of me looking up even one MRN every few minutes is low.

When the search is not working, LCR > Membership > Member Directory > individual member. It's not hard, and won't take that long at all. Your chances of looking up MRN's just went up exponentially.

Another option is to print IOS's for the youth ahead of time, which would show their MRN, and they can then keep the IOS.

I've been using the Member Directory "Search" bar to look up records, it adds a couple seconds to load the page and a couple seconds to type in the name (or scroll down if they are early in the alphabet), but loading pages in LCR on Sunday afternoon is a 5-10 second endeavor if it works at all. So the solution is I'm going to use a list of youth on a Google sheet with restricted access, look up their MRN ahead of time, and copy it into the spreadsheet.

[garystroble]

The church let's me print out date of birth, birthplace, and maiden name, which is all PII/PPI and could have significantly worse impacts on someone's life than their MRN getting out there. There are other ways of protecting the information and the plan was not to give it to the Family History Staff but for me to sit in the class with them and provide MRNs as needed and I wanted to have the MRNs handy before class. If I have to look up the MRNs for even half the class while the class is going on, not only is it going to disrupt the class, all but the first few youth are going to be left behind in the lesson.

Because the "Search" feature on the LCR Dashboard is broke and the class will be happening at 1:30 PM EDT on Sunday, the chances of me looking up even one MRN every few minutes is low.

When the search is not working, LCR > Membership > Member Directory > individual member. It's not hard, and won't take that long at all. Your chances of looking up MRN's just went up exponentially.

Another option is to print IOS's for the youth ahead of time, which would show their MRN, and they can then keep the IOS.

I've been using the Member Directory "Search" bar to look up records, it adds a couple seconds to load the page and a couple seconds to type in the name (or scroll down if they are early in the alphabet), but loading pages in LCR on Sunday afternoon is a 5-10 second endeavor if it works at all. So the solution is I'm going to use a list of youth on a Google sheet with restricted access, look up their MRN ahead of time, and copy it into the spreadsheet.

I will be very frank, that is a violation of Church security policy putting the MRN's unto another platform, restricted or not. I gave you some other ideas above.

[tonynocchi]

When the search is not working, LCR > Membership > Member Directory > individual member. It's not hard, and won't take that long at all. Your chances of looking up MRN's just went up exponentially.

Another option is to print IOS's for the youth ahead of time, which would show their MRN, and they can then keep the IOS.

I've been using the Member Directory "Search" bar to look up records, it adds a couple seconds to load the page and a couple seconds to type in the name (or scroll down if they are early in the alphabet), but loading pages in LCR on Sunday afternoon is a 5-10 second endeavor if it works at all. So the solution is I'm going to use a list of youth on a Google sheet with restricted access, look up their MRN ahead of time, and copy it into the spreadsheet.

I will be very frank, that is a violation of Church security policy putting the MRN's unto another platform, restricted or not. I gave you some other ideas above.

And none of those ideas are 'good' given the situation. I can almost guarantee wards across the church are either violating church policy or they aren't 'ministering' to their members very effectively because LCR is so limited in its use.

[garystroble]

I do know that even the Global Service Department will not give out MRN's to anybody. Maybe they are working on a new way to do things in the field, I have no inside information on it though, but have just heard rumors.

[davesudweeks]

I don't understand why MRNs are needed at the class at all. If they are needed for youth to set up their own FamilySearch account, why not have the parents ensure that is done prior to the class? I have done this several times before with youth in Family History activities and we always set the expectation with the youth and parents that they must have a FamilySearch account set up prior to the class. One might say that some of the parents won't do it (which may be a true statement) but that is the parent's responsibility, not the ward's. For youth under 12, parental intervention is required to set up a FamilySearch account anyway so having the MRN at the class will do no good for those youth if their accounts are not already set up. Youth who fail to get their account set up will have to watch others participate - perhaps that would be a good life lesson for them to learn earlier rather than later in life.

If this activity is planned for this coming 5th Sunday, the bishopric may have delayed too long to get all the youth to set up their FamilySearch accounts. In my mind, though, that still doesn't justify ignoring church policies. Even if the church doesn't always follow their own policies, that doesn't justify me in not following church policies. But this is my opinion, others may disagree. And it is wonderful that we don't have to agree to still worship the Savior in His church!

[kd7mha]

If you can't get the accounts set up ahead of time. Individual IOS's would be better than a single list as you wouldn't need to look anything up, you could just distribute the IOS's at the beginning of the meeting